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Bug 115791 - remove "Platform" and "OS" fields from the enter_bug.cgi
Summary: remove "Platform" and "OS" fields from the enter_bug.cgi
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Infrastructure
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Bugzilla (show other bugs)
Hardware: All All
: High minor (vote)
Assignee: Docs Team
URL: http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?...
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Reported: 2005-12-16 12:28 UTC by Jan Kundrát (RETIRED)
Modified: 2011-10-30 23:14 UTC (History)
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Description Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-16 12:28:36 UTC
Hi folks,
do we need the "Platform" and "OS" fields in the enter_bug.cgi when selecting Docs-user component?
Comment 1 Marcelo Goes (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-16 12:35:49 UTC
I don't think it's necessary to remove them. They may be useful in the future.
Comment 2 Łukasz Damentko (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-16 12:41:15 UTC
For me those fields are useless and have no practical use.

BTW, if we have "do you ever had an idea about bugzie" kind of day:

Component list probably needs a clean-up also. For me "handbook" "articles" "other docs" and "translations" would be enough.
Comment 3 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-16 12:45:51 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> I don't think it's necessary to remove them. They may be useful in the future.

What for?

(In reply to comment #2)
> Component list probably needs a clean-up also. For me "handbook" "articles"
> "other docs" and "translations" would be enough.

rane++. Either remove others or keep them up-to-date.
Comment 4 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2005-12-16 12:52:05 UTC
what are you talking about ?  they *are* up to date

also, unless the fields can be removed on a per-product basis, this entire bug
is moot
Comment 5 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-16 13:11:00 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> what are you talking about ?  they *are* up to date

Nope, they aren't. If you look at the https://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Docs-user , you'll see a list called "Components" that is *not* in sync with current state (see number of files under gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/).

> also, unless the fields can be removed on a per-product basis, this entire bug
> is moot

Sure, but AFAIK they can be. Or at least that's what I've heard during upgrade.
Comment 6 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2005-12-16 13:24:19 UTC
i dont know what you mean by "number of files under gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/"
but the Platform field lists all of the architectures Gentoo supports
Comment 7 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-16 13:36:04 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> i dont know what you mean by "number of files under gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/"

This bug covers several fields. At first, there's my suggestion about removing Platform and OS as they don't apply to the documentation, IMHO. This would happen *only* for products dealing with documentation, of course. Rest of Products won't be affected.

> but the Platform field lists all of the architectures Gentoo supports

Lukasz stated another opinion - he proposed to clean up the Component for docs-user Product. That has *nothing* to do with Platform and friends.

If you look ato the Component list for docs-user Product, you'll see that only a few documents are listed. Lukasz' point is that it should be reduced.
Comment 8 Xavier Neys (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-17 03:36:52 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> This bug covers several fields. At first, there's my suggestion about removing
> Platform and OS as they don't apply to the documentation, IMHO. This would
> happen *only* for products dealing with documentation, of course. Rest of
> Products won't be affected.

What's wrong with selecting platform=hppa for a bug in the hppa handbook?
What's wrong with selecting OS=FreeBSD for a bug in the gentoo-freebsd guide?

> Lukasz stated another opinion - he proposed to clean up the Component for
> docs-user Product. That has *nothing* to do with Platform and friends.
> 
> If you look at the Component list for docs-user Product, you'll see that only
> a few documents are listed. Lukasz' point is that it should be reduced.

As previously pointed out: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58651#c29
Comment 9 Łukasz Damentko (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-17 15:22:11 UTC
> What's wrong with selecting platform=hppa for a bug in the hppa handbook?
> What's wrong with selecting OS=FreeBSD for a bug in the gentoo-freebsd guide?

Nobody does it, and nobody has to do it as without it everybody knows what's going on? So, for me, it can stay and it can be removed, I don't personally care, it's not that big drawback of bugzie to have internal fights inside our project because of it.

> As previously pointed out: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58651#c29

I'd also like to see us not reassigning bugs belonging to other people but actually working. :)
If you don't opt for shortening/cleaning the list, i won't pursue that idea. 

BUT:
Let's at least update it a bit (desktop configuration guide is dead for quite a while, isn't it?).
Comment 10 Xavier Neys (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-18 03:16:44 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> > What's wrong with selecting platform=hppa for a bug in the hppa handbook?
> > What's wrong with selecting OS=FreeBSD for a bug in the gentoo-freebsd guide?
> 
> Nobody does it, and nobody has to do it as without it everybody knows what's
> going on? 

Some do. It's not because only a few bugs use it that it's not useful.
It would be very useful e.g. for an hppa dev to check for docs-team bugs w/ platform=HPPA.
Of course, removing it makes sure nobody will use it.

> > As previously pointed out: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58651#c29
> 
> If you don't opt for shortening/cleaning the list, i won't pursue that idea. 
> 
> BUT:
> Let's at least update it a bit (desktop configuration guide is dead for quite a
> while, isn't it?).

The following must have escaped your attention:
"""
The current split docs-user/docs-developers is useless as bugs end up assigned to docs-team anyway. Besides the component list is outdated.

Could we have the following items instead:
. Gentoo Documentation: Handbook and guides under the /doc directory and any translation.
Component list could be as simple as Handbook, Any Guide, Translation, Other. Those bugs get assigned to docs-team.
. Specific Documentation: Project documentation (under /proj), man pages, other.
"""

You're asking for the same thing, maybe you'll be more lucky.
Comment 11 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-18 04:06:18 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)
> You're asking for the same thing, maybe you'll be more lucky.

The bug you were referring to is RESOLVED DUPLICATE of RESOLVED FIXED one :-).

Comment 12 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-12-18 04:07:05 UTC
Okay, some GDP folks object -> it won't happen.