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Bug 11095 - CD does not boot on Dell PowerEdge 2650
Summary: CD does not boot on Dell PowerEdge 2650
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Release Media
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Everything (show other bugs)
Hardware: x86 Linux
: Highest blocker with 2 votes (vote)
Assignee: Daniel Robbins (RETIRED)
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Reported: 2002-11-22 12:46 UTC by Bug Hunter
Modified: 2005-03-25 11:23 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Bug Hunter 2002-11-22 12:46:01 UTC
When booting from eitherthe Gentoo 1.4 RC1-R2 Basic CD from:
  "livecd-basic-1.4_rc1-r2.iso              14-Sep-2002 14:33   123M"
or the Unreal Tournament 2003 Demo Gentoo 1.4 RC1 Live CD

the boot process hangs and all control is lost
(no shift-PageUP/shift-PageDown/CTL-ALT-DEL)

This happens at the same place every time it is booted from either CD

the last few lines printed are:

 ...
Loading Adaptec I20 RAID: Version 2.4 Build 5
Detecting Adaptec I20 RAID controllers...
Red Hat/Adaptec aacraid driver, Sep 14 2002
scsi0 : percraid
  Vendor: DELL      Model: PERCRAID RAID5      Rev: 0001
  Type:   Direct-Access                        ANSI SCSI revision: 02
scsi: <fdomain> Detection failed (no card)
NCR53c406a: no available ports found
sym53c416.c: Version 1.0.0-ac

Then it hangs hard and has to be power cycled to reboot.

Before it hangs - the shift-PageUp/shift-PageDown work as expected

The system has Dual 2.4G Xeon processors 2G of mem & 4 drives (hardware raid-5)

It should be noted that i can boot from the Gentoo ix86 1.2 CD on this system.
(including setting up the network & getting access to the drives via aacraid)
Comment 1 Bug Hunter 2002-12-20 17:30:15 UTC
i have done additional testing - it seems to revolve around the source used
to build the kernel.

i installed with the "Gentoo ix86 1.2 CD" then tried upgrading the kernel.

To test i made the .config files (via make menuconfig) as similar as possible
(aside from differences imposed by the different patches)

gentoo-sources  :: FAILED
vanilla-sources :: Worked
xfs-sources     :: Worked

This is with all required functionality - SMP / aacraid / ...
(not just a stripped kernel)

So it must have something to do with one of the MANY patches applied
for the gentoo-sources kernel.

If this cannot be fixed - i would suggest that at least a vanilla-sources
- or better yet xfs-sources (for those of us who run it)
kernel be used for the boot CD
Comment 2 Denis Shcherbakov 2002-12-20 18:21:07 UTC
Hi, 

I have instability issues and hard-locks to report for 2.4.19-gentoo-r7

I have a dual processor machine with Tyan Thunder i860 S2603 dual mobo, two
2.2-GHz Intel Xeons with hyperthreading, 2 GB of RDRAM, 64 MB nVidia GeForce3,
etc...  

I have been experiencing hard-locks with complete system halt when running
several instances of computational C++ codes.  I has not happened with C-codes,
which ran peacefully at complete saturation (4 simultaneous processes). 
However, if one of these processes is that C++ code, at some point the system
crashes, with all hardware lights coming on. 

I have updated all the libraries such as glibc and libc, along with many other libs.

I see no errors in a single log file!  If I watch a system load monitor, I
noticed that the crash happens around the time when a process jumps to another
processor.  For example, from CPU1 to CPU0, or from CPU3 to CPU1.  Maybe it's a
scheduling issue, but since my C-code ran just fine, I am not sure.

People seem to report that problems same as mine only occur on gentoo sources
and do not come up on vanilla's.

We would very much appreciate your attention to this problem!
Thank you,
Denis
Comment 3 Daniel Robbins (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2002-12-22 00:13:53 UTC
I am ignoring the last comment that some person attached to this bug report 
since it is unrelated to this particular bug. Weird :) 

Now, to address the issue at hand. Please try the experimental "2002122100" 
livecd kernel at http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/experimental/livecd/  It may boot 
just fine for you.

If not, you may be able to work around the problem (if you have an IDE CD-ROM 
drive in the system) by typing "gentoo noscsi" at the boot: prompt. According 
to Alron (being cc'd on this bug,) the PERC5 controller can be mis-identified 
as another type of controller and cause the "wrong" module to freak out when 
loaded and mess up the system. We may be able to tweak the module load order to 
address this issue. Alron can't test his system since the machine with the PERC 
controller is being used in production.

I am very interested in fixing this bug in the next couple of days if you have 
the time to do some testing. So even if you have an IDE CD-ROM and can work 
around this issue, please contact me if you are willing to test future LiveCDs
in relation to this issue.
Comment 4 Martin Holzer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2002-12-23 07:45:55 UTC
this is from to gentoo-dev

turned out to be a RTFM situation - i didn't have the /dev/rtc setting
turned on in the charicter devices menu :)  when i enabled that it boots
and runs just fine.

thanks
Comment 5 Daniel Robbins (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2002-12-23 12:41:10 UTC
Please verify that the "20021221" livecd from
http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/experimental/livecd works on your system. This bug has
still not been verified to be fixed.
Comment 6 Bill 2002-12-23 13:55:11 UTC
I have the same machine and experienced the same problem.

I *was* able to boot w/ the 20021221 cd using the noscsi option. Without the no
scsi option it locked at detecting eata devices.

This is not a production machine, so I can try anything you want on it :)
Comment 7 Daniel Robbins (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2002-12-24 01:38:24 UTC
Bill: Oh goody. Here are some things I'd like you to try. First, try the new
"2002122300" livecd-basic and see if our new kernel based on 2.4.20 contains a
fix for this problem. If it doesn't, then we need to find a work-around. First,
what module *is supposed* to be loaded for this hardware? Maybe if we ensure
that it loads *before* the module that is causing the problem, we will no longer
have problems. At least that is my guess. for the 12/23 CD, the current module
load order for scsi modules is:

STORAGE_MODULES="aic7xxx BusLogic ncr53c8xx \
NCR53c406a initio advansys aha1740 aha1542 aha152x \
atp870u dtc eata fdomain gdth megaraid pas16 pci2220i \
pci2000 psi240i qlogicfas qlogicfc qlogicisp seagate \
t128 tmscsim u14-34f ultrastor wd7000 dc395x_trm"

So I'm thinking the problem is being caused by eata or *possibly* the fdomain
module. Try booting with "noscsi" and load eata. does the system lock? try
fdomain if no. Find the module that is causing it to lock, just to be sure.

Post info here.
Comment 8 Bill 2002-12-24 11:14:10 UTC
Hi,

I tried the 2002122300 CD, and it boots to a login :)

It loaded the following modules: tg3, strip, slhc, mii, dummy,
aironet4500_(proc|core), 8390, cloop, aic7xxx. 

So far, everything looks good. I can send you a .config from a 2.4.19 from
another of these machines if you want it.

Thanks,
Bill
Comment 9 Bob Johnson (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-04-20 10:02:06 UTC
reopen if not fixed on latest
Comment 10 Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-03-25 11:23:55 UTC
Moving these so we can remove the "Install CD" component from "Gentoo Linux".

I apologize to everyone for this spam, but according to the bugzilla developers,
this is the only reasonable way to do this.