Hi all, I tried to use Microsoft Sans Serif lately. I got the from my WinXP Fonts folder. The dots of the Umlaute are spread all over the monitor. Other fonts are all displayed properly. MS has no problem with MS Sans Serif either (XP standard font). I tried different font sizes ranging from 8 to 10pt. The brokenness varied, but broken they all were. ;-) I'll try to upload some pictures at once. Bare with me. Thanks! Sebastian Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Portage 2.0.51.22-r3 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.6, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.13.4 i686) ================================================================= System uname: 2.6.13.4 i686 AMD Sempron(tm) 2400+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13 ccache version 2.3 [enabled] dev-lang/python: 2.4.2 sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.12 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r6 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.15.92.0.2-r10 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.20 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ /usr/share/texmf/xdvi/ /var/qmail/control" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" DISTDIR="/data/distfiles" FEATURES="autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms strict" GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://sunsite.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/gentoo" LANG="de_DE@euro" LC_ALL="de_DE@euro" LINGUAS="de" MAKEOPTS="-j2" PKGDIR="/data/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/gentoo-portage" USE="x86 3dnow 3dnowext X alsa bzip2 crypt cups dvdr flac foomaticdb gif ithreads jpeg kde kdeenablefinal mmap mmx mmxext ncurses nls nodrm nptl nptlonly ogg opengl png ppds readline spell sse ssl truetype truetype-fonts userlocales xv zlib linguas_de userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc" Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LDFLAGS
Created attachment 71574 [details] Picture at 8pt
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Might be a freetype problem. foser, any idea? Otherwise the simple "solution" is: Use another font! ;)
What freetype version ? Can someone confirm the problem with this particular font ?
Hi foser, I'm using media-libs/freetype-2.1.10 and it still happens (see new attachment; the wastebin). I opened a forum thread asking others to check if it works for them or not: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3328869.html Sebastian
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What font are you using exactly btw? Apparently there's 'Microsoft Sans Serif' & 'MS Sans Serif'. The font on your desktop looks like a bitmap to me.
It's Microsoft Sans Serif, definitely TrueType. I compiled xorg-x11 with "-bitmap-fonts". Maybe it looks like a bitmap font because I excluded the size range 7-14pt from antialiasing/hinting. S.
USE=-bitmap-fonts doesn't install bitmap fonts, it doesn't mean you can't use them.
Ah, ok. But it doesn't seem to be a bitstream fonts anyway (see picture mss.png). S.
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Still an issue w/ freetype-2.2* or freetype-2.3* ?
Hi Jakub, I can't tell just yet. I still have media-libs/freetype-2.1.10-r2. I don't have a system just for testing. I'll make a note to report back once one of them goes x86. Regards Sebastian
OK, played around and ended up installing freetype-2.3.4. Still the same - weired dots. Regards Sebastian
Weird, not weired :D
(In reply to comment #15) > OK, played around and ended up installing freetype-2.3.4. Still the same - > weired dots. Which font files did you copy from where precisely?
Pardon me? What do you mean? Do you mean the configuration files or the ttf files? I have my own /etc/fonts/local.conf and ~/.fonts.conf. The ttf files over the years (since I initially reported this bug) were from the MS XP Home cd I own, or the corefonts package or the webcore fonts (not in portage). Is that what you wanted to know?
the exact names would be better, can you reproduce the issue with dejavu or vera?
Created attachment 120893 [details] kfontview.png It's micross.ttf.
Dejavu and Vera work fine as well as all the other fonts I've used so far. Maybe it's just a bug in the ttf file. I take it MS doesn't have a bugzilla :)
I've tried several times to reproduce your problem using Microsoft Sans Serif (micross.ttf from XP Pro) and freetype-2.3.4-r2 on x86 and amd64. It just works fine for me. The dots are where they should be for any font size.
Interesting. Regards Sebastian
Sebastian, let's see if we have the same micross.ttf. What's the sha1 checksum for your micross.ttf? ("sha1sum -b <file>") Mine is: 9b61a2c06d3eedcaf12f4317653ff9f234379ea5 */usr/share/fonts/TTF/micross.ttf
We do: sha1sum -b /usr/share/fonts/webcore-fonts/micross.ttf 9b61a2c06d3eedcaf12f4317653ff9f234379ea5 */usr/share/fonts/webcore-fonts/micross.ttf
Let's summarize: It's not freetype - other fonts work fine for you. It's not micross.ttf itself - we have the same file and it works for me but not for you. I'm running out of ideas here. I think you might have a unique local issue there, Sebastian.
I don't think such a thing exists :)But maybe it's time to close this bug anyway. People don't seem to be interested in MS Sans Serif. Neither am I anymore. No point in wasting our time if we don't care about the outcome. The fact that you guys can't reproduce doesn't help either. Any objections? Regards Sebastian
None from me. lu_zero? It's your bug after all. :-)
Resolved as worksforme, summary solution: - there are broken font from microsoft (e.g. micross.ttf) - Use dejavu fonts or any other known to be sane font when possible
