Mesh Solutions is interested in offering connectivity and rackspace for Gentoo use. This could be used, among other things, for a european master distfile server Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3.
abien@nbmc.de is Alexander Bien, contact person for Mesh Solutions, rsync12.de and ftp://ftp.gentoo.mesh-solutions.com/gentoo/
We don't currently have any spare hardware to send that way, but just for the sake of info, how much bandwidth would be available at this site? -C
We (as in: the German NFP "Friends of Gentoo e.V.") would be able to organize sufficient hardware for a European master-mirror (a server machine, external storage array).
Is the Friends of Gentoo e.V. willing to turn total control of said machine over to the infrastructure team? We keep systems such as this (a master distfiles server) under tight access control. This brings up another point, such a server would need the utmost reliability. I don't have any personal experience with Mesh, and they look good on the data center side, but network-wise as far as I can tell they are single-homed. Can you find out if there are any other peers? I am a firm believer that "beggars can not be choosers" but we got bit last week when Level3 pulled their little depeering stunt and one of our major providers is single-homed through them. (disclaimer: these statements are forward-thinking in nature acting on the assumption that we want to deploy a euro distfiles master. This may not be the case)
we definitely want to deploy a Euro master mirror if we can find suitable arrangements for it. I agree with Corey that, ideally, we want to find a multi-homed provider. That said, even a single-homed provider would be better than what we have now. If we can find a suitable server that Infra can build and manage, I think this sounds like a decent solution.
MESH has lots and lots of peerings. ex with Cogent, Colt, and others. So in the recent depeering with cogent most of the MESH customers didnt notice since we have multiple private peerings with them. Check it out: http://tinyurl.com/ay4mp (Link to RIPE) We also have two feeds from L3 which are independantly going two our two C12K GSR platforms and so forth.. Our uptime shouldnt be a problem.
Alexander, that's great!! Like I said before we can't be picky since it's free hosting, but last week was an eye opener. Tobias, what do you have in mind? -C
(In reply to comment #4) > Is the Friends of Gentoo e.V. willing to turn total control of said machine over > to the infrastructure team? We keep systems such as this (a master distfiles > server) under tight access control. In general yes. Especially when speaking about such a sensitive machine this makes absolutely sense. Though it would be an additional option to bring new infra members aboard (long-time & trusted Gentoo Developers) who live near the datacenter and can also do needed hardware maintenance.
regarding hardware: there is some second-hand hardware available over here. regarding maintenance: maybe we want to add someone living near the data center to infra for maintenance, patrick also mentioned that we may have on-site support so from my point of view we should work out what hardware we need and what we have
(In reply to comment #8) (...) > In general yes. Especially when speaking about such a sensitive machine this > makes absolutely sense. Though it would be an additional option to bring new > infra members aboard (long-time & trusted Gentoo Developers) who live near the > datacenter and can also do needed hardware maintenance. Incase physical access is a problem cause noone from Gentoo is living in the area, we could work out a deal that will allow a certain ammount of monthly remote hands via the local techs. (In reply to comment #2) >We don't currently have any spare hardware to send that way, but just for the >sake of info, how much bandwidth would be available at this site? Since this is a public forum id just like to state "enough". If we can find a more private place i would be happy to throw a number.
I'm workin at the NetMasters-Hungary Ltd. Our company is committed Gentoo user. In fact, all of our productive machine has Gentoo. Our company likes to offer some help, we can place the server in our Datacenter. The company has two homes in Budapest, which has a private peer. These Datacenters are at Hungary's two biggest backbone providers, T-Online Hungary (Deutsche Telekomm subsidiary company) and GTS Central Europe. These centers has the following parameters: T-Online Hungary - Internal bandwidth 2x10Gbps to the Matav IP backbone network - External bandwidth 1,8Gbps, which that dissolves through the Matav IP backbone network: * 1Gbps to the Talia international backbone network * 622Mbps to the Deutsche Telekom international backbone network * 155Mbps to VIX (Vienna) GTS Central Europe (this is the bigger) - The bandwidth informations can be found on their homepage at: http://www. gtsce.com/maps/index.html Both of the companies has very good peering network: T-Online Hungary: http://href.hu/x/mez GTS Central Europe: http://href.hu/x/mew Our company has many years of experience in hardwares, softwares (mainly Unix- based systems of course), so we can offer hardware maintance too.
These offerings do not seem to cause lots of excitement. I take it Gentoo infra is all set with bandwidth/colo? :(
I'm really excited about getting a better europe presence and I think your facilities will be execellent for what we need. Please don't take the lack of a quick response as a form of non-interest. We all of real lives/jobs and it just takes time for us to keep up with things like this. The main things I'd to have is a 24x7 number to call in case of a problem and someone that knows Gentoo well enough to fix a few things in case of problems. About hardware, I would prefer not to use old second-hand hardware if possible. I'd rather not have to put up something breaking without an warranty to cover problems. Leaves less of a headache for us as well.
(In reply to comment #13) (...) > The main things I'd to have is a 24x7 number to call in case of a problem and > someone that knows Gentoo well enough to fix a few things in case of problems. We operate a 24/7 support number. We will have to work out what kind of response times we would want commit to as we go along. But again, details would have to be discussed in a more private environment. Let me know if there is anything else i can explain :)
I think we're all game for the hosting you are offering, the holdup will be finding a box to host. Cheers!
We also have 24/7 support number, and 3 of our administrators ready. What hardware do we need for this server? How much storage...etc. Maybe we can offer hardware too.
I can take care of aquiring hardware, but I'd like to have some more info on what is needed so that I don't deliver a lemon :-)
Being in Europe and such a critical infra service, I think OOB console is going to be a must (ala iLO or DRAC.. iLO preferred). Some IPMI hosts have it as well but I have yet to see a remote console via IPMI work. Cheers!
A Peppercon eRIC would also be nice I think: http://www.peppercon.com/remoteboards.html Those have a very good reputation, especially in Germany.
Would it be possible to build up a European master mirror "network" spread over several locations instead of using a _single_ machine and location? That could make it more acceptable to host at single homed locations.
A multi-homed network would be ideal (and it sounds like we already may have one) but what we really need is hardware at this point.
Created attachment 74504 [details] Draft for a funding request with detailed HW information Added a draft for the necessary funding request. Contains 2 TODO items: a) Fill in detailed conditions for hosting with Mesh Solutions. (patrick) b) Ask further european NFPs (GeCHi) for participation. (plate)
Ping. Been over a month, what's the status on this?
(In reply to comment #23) > Ping. > > Been over a month, what's the status on this? > Good question. Anyone? As fas as MESH is concerned we are still offering.
So ... this has been in hibernation for quite some time. After some talks with Alexander and his boss it looks like Mesh is even offering to provide the hardware. I suggest that infra states any points of discussion left and we get this wrapped up soon.
In talking with Patrick this morning, I basically told him "show us (infra) the IP and the root password" and we can move from there. Infra can't do much without that. Hopefully we can get this moving if MESH is proposing to provide hardware, I am sure the european mirror admins would appreciate it.
Just an FYI update: Much thanks to Mesh for getting us this box! I was able to get it built and rebooted on its own. I'm not currently trying to find time to sort out some organizational issues and then implement them. Needless to say, it has not been forgotten, just needing me and a few others to finish a few things up. Thanks again.
Created attachment 96791 [details] MESH Banners/Logo Attached are 4 Versions of the Banner.
(In reply to comment #28) > Attached are 4 Versions of the Banner. Which still need to be placed, I guess.
.. or not. The box was sitting idle for 5 Months, MESH then decided Gentoo isnt in need of sponsored hardware and/or colocation. In consultation with ramereth the box was disabled in October 2006. moooo :( Bug could be closed i guess.
That's sad to hear. But thanks for your efforts.
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