Cardoe has acted unprofessionally and disrespectfully to other developers including myself in #gentoo-dev and has violated the #gentoo-dev IRC policy. Please take whatever action you see fit. My hope is that a reprimand will suffice as it would be a shame to lose someone to a bad day and a short temper. However, it is totally unacceptable for developers to present themselves and therefore gentoo in a publicly accessible IRC channel this way. Log follows: 21:14:47< Cardoe@> I'm like 20 seconds from switching to Ubuntu 21:15:03< Cardoe@> and just running Gentoo on VMWare 21:16:33* Cardoe sighs. 21:17:00< soulse-@> ..... 21:17:10< Cardoe@> my laptop 21:17:13* soulse- sees its in fact #gentoo-dev channel 21:17:17< soulse-@> heheh 21:17:24< soulse-@> Cardoe: ;) 21:17:24< r2d2@> 2x SparcStation 5, $0.10 buy-it-now, awesome :) 21:17:26< Cardoe@> the system is ALWAYS HOT as hell. 21:17:40< soulse-@> Cardoe: yeah.. i could imagine :P 21:18:08< Cardoe@> I've locked the thing to run @ 600mhz 21:18:10< Cardoe@> rather then 1.8ghz 21:18:16< agaffney@> r2d2: you're getting ripped off even at that price :P 21:18:20! luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@CPE-65-26-133-171.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:18:46< Cardoe@> agaffney: fix my system 21:18:51< Cardoe@> be like MTV 21:18:54< Cardoe@> and pimp my ride 21:19:13< agaffney@> Cardoe: what did you break? :) 21:19:17! luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@user-0c938qu.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #gentoo-dev 21:19:43< Cardoe@> It's not broken 21:19:46< Cardoe@> just Gentoo doesn't work right 21:19:52< Cardoe@> Gentoo's already killed 1 laptop of mine 21:20:03< Cardoe@> I keep them running at the LOWEST possible speed 21:20:11< Cardoe@> and I keep a handful of programs opened 21:20:23< Cardoe@> Today... I was gone from 4pm until 12:15am 21:20:31< Cardoe@> So about 8 hrs 21:21:14< Cardoe@> I left X-Chat, Thunderbird, Firefox (with Slashdot, Wikipedia, and another MediaWiki page), 3 gnome-terminals opened. 21:21:16< Cardoe@> That's it 21:21:20< Cardoe@> across all my desktops. 21:21:38< Cardoe@> the laptop is so hot it's nearly impossible to touch 21:21:57< agaffney@> so get ACPI or whatever the hell you need working :P 21:22:06< r2d2@> I don't see how it's gentoo's fault 21:22:23< r2d2@> as gentoo isn't exactly something that's actively running 21:22:41< r2d2@> kernel kernel kernel... 21:22:41< Battousai@> it's always gentoo's fault 21:22:44< Battousai@> duh 21:23:03< Cardoe@> r2d2: go through my kernel config and fix it then 21:23:15< Battousai@> pwned 21:23:24< Cardoe@> if it's the kernel 21:23:54< Cardoe@> And the other annoying thing 21:23:58< r2d2@> that's the spirit ... "why don't you fix it for me" 21:24:04< Cardoe@> If I don't use "emerge" for long periods of time... 21:24:10< Cardoe@> r2d2: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT 21:24:12< r2d2@> cause of course, I'm the one having the problem, and it's my fault 21:24:18< Cardoe@> IF I DID THEN I WOULDN'T COMPLAIN 21:24:32< Cardoe@> JACKASS 21:24:42< Cardoe@> r2d2: you weren't helped in #-laptop 21:24:53< Cardoe@> and now you're just being the same unhelpful prick 21:24:55< r2d2@> and here I thought it was the laptop, and not the user that was hot 21:25:26< Cardoe@> fuck you r2d2 21:25:34< Battousai@> easy Cardoe 21:25:36< Battousai@> it's just irc 21:25:56! euronaut [n=stefan@off9-d9bb3aaf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #gentoo-dev 21:27:06< blackace@> Cardoe: language please. 21:27:20< Cardoe@> blackace: If you don't want to hear fucking language, look away. 21:27:30< Battousai@> heh 21:27:31< r2d2@> Cardoe: I apologize, sorry for not being able to fix your mysterious problem given no fact, I'll try harder next time 21:27:41< Cardoe@> r2d2: I already told you.. fuck you. 21:28:00< Battousai@> ok, i think we've seen enough of this 21:28:02! mode/#gentoo-dev [+o bcowan] by ChanServ 21:28:09! Cardoe was kicked from #gentoo-dev by blackace [check the IRC policy please, language policy here is the same as in #gentoo] 21:28:15! Cardoe [n=Cardoe@gentoo/developer/Cardoe] has joined #gentoo-dev 21:28:18! mode/#gentoo-dev [+o Cardoe] by ChanServ 21:28:21< Battousai@> sigh 21:28:21< SpanKY@> i'm sure that'll go over well 21:28:23< Cardoe@> blackace: you are not the police of the channel 21:28:27< Cardoe@> blackace: jackass 21:28:36< r2d2@> I guess passive-agressive apologies don't help any, my bad 21:28:37! mode/#gentoo-dev [-o+b blackace *!n=blackace@gentoo/developer/blackace] by Cardoe 21:28:38! blackace was kicked from #gentoo-dev by Cardoe [Cardoe] **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 06 21:28:38 2005
As far as I'm concerned, people are certainly within their rights to kick others because of obscene, vulgar language and refusal to stop using it. Is there some official #-dev policy around now, beyond what's in the generic etiquette thing? Maybe somebody diplomatic with a little free time could step up and say they'll talk to Cardoe about this.
(In reply to comment #1) > As far as I'm concerned, people are certainly within their rights to kick others > because of obscene, vulgar language and refusal to stop using it. > > Is there some official #-dev policy around now, beyond what's in the generic > etiquette thing? > > Maybe somebody diplomatic with a little free time could step up and say they'll > talk to Cardoe about this. Or, failing that, policy suggests that the ombudsman should be brought in to help resolve. There is no indication that I can see of repeated violations of any policy in this specific log.
the whole thing was settled shortly after the k/b ... which is to say the situation was defused by some other devs before anything more happened i'd just have the ombudsman drop a word or two to Cardoe to remind him that we're all just one big happy family and be done with it
Seems right to me, too. blackace, any reason not to close this?
Nope, sounds good to me, he just needs to understand that #gentoo-dev has a language policy (http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/irc.xml), and that it is inappropriate to ban fellow developers from their development channel for no reason. Grant, over to you, and thanks in advance.
Sorry, I was on vacation. It's multiple days later now, and bringing this issue up now seems likely to do more harm than good. If there are further problems, feel free to ping me.
