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Bug 608174 - =net-im/skype-4.3* end of life on 1 July 2017 (last-rite?)
Summary: =net-im/skype-4.3* end of life on 1 July 2017 (last-rite?)
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Current packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal normal
Assignee: Raymond Jennings
URL: https://www.skype.com/en/download-sky...
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks: 620722
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Reported: 2017-02-04 06:33 UTC by Gleb
Modified: 2017-11-16 16:48 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Description Gleb 2017-02-04 06:33:18 UTC
According to these two sources:
https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-End-of-life/td-p/4586741
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/02/03/the-skype-you-love-is-getting-better-download-it-for-free-today/

Skype 4.3 and some other old versions of Skype on other platforms won't work anymore because of obsolete P2P architecture.

It's relevant to this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546746

New Skype for Linux (since 1.16) does support 1-on-1 video calls to other platforms (for example Windows client or Android client), but the other side must have latest version (e.g. Skype 7.31 or even 7.32 for Windows).
Comment 1 Raymond Jennings 2017-02-10 20:40:36 UTC
I vote against this at least until microsoft's servers officially start rejecting obsolete versions from connecting.
Comment 2 Michał Górny archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2017-02-11 08:54:27 UTC
....or upstream stops providing packages, since they are mirror restricted.
Comment 3 Andreas Sturmlechner gentoo-dev 2017-02-12 11:35:52 UTC
(In reply to Raymond Jennings from comment #1)
> I vote against this at least until microsoft's servers officially start
> rejecting obsolete versions from connecting.

What do you think about the following for a public service announcement:

+# Officially end of life upstream on 2017-03-01 and segfaults with
+# dev-qt/qtwebkit:4[exceptions]. Grab your logs while you still can
+# and migrate to alternatives such as net-im/skypeforlinux.
+# Feel free to report should it still work after the deadline.
+# Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug 546746 and 608174
+net-im/skype

Otherwise people might be very surprised on March 1st.
Comment 5 Raymond Jennings 2017-02-13 21:53:13 UTC
Sergey's link points to a post made by a staff member of skype, so it's probably official enough. 

Please reopen if anything breaks on March 1st.
Comment 6 Gleb 2017-06-04 15:55:21 UTC
Reopening because of this:

"Important notice: All Skype for Linux clients version 4.3 and older will be retired on July 1, 2017. To keep chatting, please install the latest version of Skype for Linux."

Taken from official Skype Download page:
https://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
Comment 7 Raymond Jennings 2017-06-04 16:22:48 UTC
It's not dead yet, and until it fails to download or the skype servers blacklist the older versions I don't think we should remove this.

Marking as Upstream until validity of microsoft's announcement is confirmed or refuted, thanks for the heads up.  I'll be watching this.
Comment 8 Andreas Sturmlechner gentoo-dev 2017-06-04 16:33:14 UTC
Masking means that you give the users of the package enough time in advance to move their business elsewhere. Waiting until day-0 is not doing anyone a favor. You can still drop the mask if Microsoft's promise is not kept.
Comment 9 Raymond Jennings 2017-06-14 05:45:00 UTC
Masked due to side issue of qt4 dependency, as well as this.

Will lastrite once/if upstream proceeds with EOL
Comment 10 Timo Ollech 2017-06-29 15:28:48 UTC
I'm wary about the proposed switch to net-im/skypeforlinux because of apulse. I won't install pulseaudio just for Skype to work, so does anyone have experience with net-im/skypeforlinux and apulse? Or does net-im/skypeforlinux not need pulseaudio anymore?
Comment 11 Raymond Jennings 2017-06-29 22:27:51 UTC
apulse works ok enough.

Honestly though, skypeforlinux is worthless in terms of being better than the web version.
Comment 12 Andreas Sturmlechner gentoo-dev 2017-07-02 08:05:36 UTC
So July 1st has come and passed. What's a net-im/skype user's status today?
Comment 13 Richard H. 2017-07-02 09:11:13 UTC
(In reply to Andreas Sturmlechner from comment #12)
> So July 1st has come and passed. What's a net-im/skype user's status today?

No problems whatsoever. Runs since days without any issues. Restarted it, logged right in. Seems to work, once again the announcement was just hot air. Maybe they will do something the next days. Who knows.
Comment 14 Raymond Jennings 2017-07-02 10:31:18 UTC
And this is exactly why I didn't want to lastrite it yet, because I suspected microsoft might pull this.
Comment 15 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2017-11-14 23:02:10 UTC
The bug has been closed via the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=9fd953b2870c84d5fc76bc74152486396caf675e

commit 9fd953b2870c84d5fc76bc74152486396caf675e
Author:     Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2017-11-14 23:01:51 +0000
Commit:     Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2017-11-14 23:01:51 +0000

    profiles: Remove last-rited packages
    
    Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/633498
    Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/633510
    Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/633502
    Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/620722
    Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/608174

 dev-python/skype4py/Manifest                       |  1 -
 dev-python/skype4py/metadata.xml                   |  9 ---
 dev-python/skype4py/skype4py-1.0.35-r1.ebuild      | 22 -------
 kde-misc/kbiff/Manifest                            |  1 -
 kde-misc/kbiff/kbiff-4.0.ebuild                    | 17 -----
 kde-misc/kbiff/metadata.xml                        | 11 ----
 kde-misc/kover/Manifest                            |  1 -
 kde-misc/kover/files/kover-4-cflags.patch          | 20 ------
 kde-misc/kover/kover-6.ebuild                      | 27 --------
 kde-misc/kover/metadata.xml                        | 12 ----
 media-gfx/kfax/Manifest                            |  1 -
 media-gfx/kfax/files/kfax-3.3.6-kde45.patch        | 12 ----
 media-gfx/kfax/files/kfax-3.3.6-underlinking.patch | 12 ----
 media-gfx/kfax/kfax-3.3.6-r1.ebuild                | 38 -----------
 media-gfx/kfax/metadata.xml                        |  8 ---
 media-sound/k4guitune/Manifest                     |  1 -
 .../files/k4guitune-1.1.1-desktop_entry.patch      | 10 ---
 media-sound/k4guitune/k4guitune-1.1.1.ebuild       | 32 ---------
 media-sound/k4guitune/metadata.xml                 | 12 ----
 media-sound/kenvy24/Manifest                       |  1 -
 media-sound/kenvy24/kenvy24-1.2.ebuild             | 25 --------
 media-sound/kenvy24/metadata.xml                   | 15 -----
 media-sound/kmidimon/Manifest                      |  1 -
 .../files/kmidimon-0.7.5-kdelibs-4.14.11.patch     | 17 -----
 media-sound/kmidimon/kmidimon-0.7.5.ebuild         | 36 -----------
 media-sound/kmidimon/metadata.xml                  | 15 -----
 media-sound/kradio/Manifest                        |  1 -
 .../kradio/files/kradio-4.0.7-include.patch        | 15 -----
 media-sound/kradio/kradio-4.0.8.ebuild             | 75 ----------------------
 media-sound/kradio/metadata.xml                    | 11 ----
 media-sound/skype-call-recorder/Manifest           |  1 -
 .../files/skype-call-recorder-0.8-cmake.patch      | 19 ------
 media-sound/skype-call-recorder/metadata.xml       |  8 ---
 .../skype-call-recorder-0.11.ebuild                | 32 ---------
 media-sound/waheela/Manifest                       |  1 -
 media-sound/waheela/metadata.xml                   |  8 ---
 media-sound/waheela/waheela-0.3.ebuild             | 21 ------
 media-video/loopy/Manifest                         |  1 -
 media-video/loopy/loopy-0.5.3.ebuild               | 22 -------
 media-video/loopy/metadata.xml                     | 11 ----
 net-im/skypetab-ng/Manifest                        |  2 -
 .../skypetab-ng-0.5.2_p20150201-isdigit.patch      | 14 ----
 net-im/skypetab-ng/metadata.xml                    | 12 ----
 net-im/skypetab-ng/skypetab-ng-0.5.2.ebuild        | 37 -----------
 .../skypetab-ng/skypetab-ng-0.5.2_p20150201.ebuild | 41 ------------
 net-im/skypetab-ng/skypetab-ng-9999.ebuild         | 41 ------------
 net-p2p/kmldonkey/Manifest                         |  1 -
 net-p2p/kmldonkey/kmldonkey-2.0.7.ebuild           | 34 ----------
 net-p2p/kmldonkey/metadata.xml                     |  8 ---
 profiles/package.mask                              | 66 -------------------
 50 files changed, 839 deletions(-)
Comment 16 Raymond Jennings 2017-11-15 00:38:56 UTC
For the record microsoft has finally followed through with version banning this paackage from login.