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Bug 38368 (psi29a) - Retire: Bret Curtis (psi29a)
Summary: Retire: Bret Curtis (psi29a)
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: psi29a
Product: Gentoo Developers/Staff
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Retirement (show other bugs)
Hardware: All All
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Retirement Admin
URL:
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
: 193488 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2004-01-15 20:24 UTC by Joshua Kinard
Modified: 2021-02-03 08:01 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Description Joshua Kinard gentoo-dev 2004-01-15 20:24:25 UTC
Name: Bret Curtis
Email: psi@mindwerks.net
Areas of responsibility: MIPS: XFree86/KDE/GAIM/X-Chat and general desktop applications
@gentoo.org Email: Not added
List subscription: Not added
CVS Access: Not added
IRC Access: psi29a - Voice Access in #gentoo-dev
Mentor: `Kumba
Announced: No
Began probationary period: 01.15.2004
Comment 1 Deedra Waters (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-03-04 19:28:25 UTC
Come talk to me on irc so we can go through your quiz etc. 'irc.freenode.net' My nick is dmwaters .
Comment 2 Deedra Waters (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-03-04 21:42:46 UTC
He's set up, really funny guy.
Comment 3 Bryan Østergaard (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-01-07 12:09:43 UTC
Retiring due to inactivity. Last cvs commit 2005-07-21 and no bugs activity.
Comment 4 Joshua Kinard gentoo-dev 2006-01-07 14:03:48 UTC
He's been around, off and on.  He just recently got married and moved to geoman's area, and I believe is catching up on RL Work.  CC'ing geoman as he's met with him recently I believe.
Comment 5 Bryan Østergaard (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-01-07 14:48:17 UTC
cool, I'd much rather see psi29a active than retired so looking forward to any good news :)
Comment 6 Bret Curtis (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-01-07 18:53:02 UTC
mee too(In reply to comment #5)
> cool, I'd much rather see psi29a active than retired so looking forward to any
> good news :)
> 

I agree!

I'm still alive, getting married, moving, and working full-time!  I've been reading the ML, just need to get the octane upand running. Just recently built a machine to, sans Reiser4fs. :P
Comment 7 Bryan Østergaard (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-05-12 07:02:49 UTC
Bret, any news? It's been quite some time since last comment.
Comment 8 Bret Curtis (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-05-13 20:31:49 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> Bret, any news? It's been quite some time since last comment.
> 

Yup, still here and have gotten back on track with geoman and kumba, Octane is up and going through a mixture of tool chains now.

I also just bought a house too and closing on the 31st of may. I may not be the most active dev, but I still care about gentoo, and more importantly getting it to run on SGI mips Octane.

I guess it is up to you all if you want to set this as 'fixed' or not.
Comment 9 Bryan Østergaard (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-05-17 15:59:45 UTC
Closing as LATER as that seems more apropiate than FIXED given that I'm not retiring Bret now.
Comment 10 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 00:20:13 UTC
Hmmm, so something like one year later:

last commit Aug 05, 2006... no bugs activity.
Comment 11 Bret Curtis (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 00:33:06 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)
> Hmmm, so something like one year later:
> 
> last commit Aug 05, 2006... no bugs activity.
> 

mosty because i've been working with linux-mips on my own time in getting the octane up and running.

It would seem that you re-opened the 'retirement' bug as a direct response to me telling daniel where he can shove it.

you should be ashamed of yourself for stooping so low.
Comment 12 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 00:36:53 UTC
Please, don't resolve devrel bugs. 

(In reply to comment #11)
> It would seem that you re-opened the 'retirement' bug as a direct response to
> me telling daniel where he can shove it.
> 
> you should be ashamed of yourself for stooping so low.

Erm, no... I've reopened this bug after seing a completely unknown-to-me developer chiming in a discussion and talking about his years experience before calling other people idiots, which lead to me checking your commit stats... 
Comment 13 Bryan Østergaard (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 00:38:26 UTC
Ok, I'm closing this bug as psi29a is actively helping the MIPS team - commit stats aside.
Comment 14 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 00:45:34 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
> Ok, I'm closing this bug as psi29a is actively helping the MIPS team - commit
> stats aside.

OK, lets summarize this - no bugs activity, no commit for 9 months and he's been 'working on getting the octane up and running' for about two years now... Mkay, next time some mips folks start to complain about being understaffed, this bug will be a good pointer to prove them wrong. 

Thanks.
Comment 15 Joshua Kinard gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 00:55:45 UTC
Jakub: psi29a had a few minor improvements to his code that resulted in some delays in getting him back into an online state.  Most notably, in one of the versions in 2005, he gained a Marriage() function, and the resultant slowdown (as anyone who has gained such a function can attest too) impacted his ability to routinely jump to the mipsdev() function.

Also, the move_location() function was called once or twice, and then there was the hassle of having to clean up the fragmentation often caused by that particular function.  And lets not even get into the gremlin() function that somehow injected itself into his running, in-memory code and passed onto his Octane over the 2006 summer, which later went on to migrate to my own Octane this past Dec and Jan.

Basically, not all of us mips devs have as complete of a code base as other devs.  But this should not imply that we are any less of a dev than someone with a larger codebase.  After all, Linux itself has far fewer total lines of code than the Windows core, and some would dare say Linux is the superior OS, yes? :)
Comment 16 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 01:05:09 UTC
I thought one time we had this funny policy, and yes it's still there... ;)

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/policy.xml#doc_chap3

Anyway, thanks for the above comment, I needed some good laugh tonight (seriously, no offense meant).

(Reopening so that the bug resolution matches reality).
Comment 17 Ferris McCormick (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 01:28:24 UTC
Well, it's not open.  Please leave it closed as per kloeri's comments, (#13) and kumba's (#15).  I'm closing it; please do not change that.
Comment 18 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 01:30:35 UTC
(In reply to comment #17)
> I'm closing it; please do not change that.

Here's a helpful link... http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_activity.cgi?id=38368

(Hint: FIXED wasn't quite an appropriate resolution).
Comment 19 Ferris McCormick (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 01:43:02 UTC
Sorry.  I should have left it alone.  What I meant is that per kumba's and kloeri's comments, we're not retiring him.  You may rail against devrel all you like, but kumba says MIPS needs him, and I am acting as spear carrier here.
Comment 20 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-05 01:47:58 UTC
(In reply to comment #19)

Uhm... The above comment #18 was purely technical, simply can't change resolution of a bug in one step, so it needed to get reopened first. :) Thanks for clarification anyway.
Comment 21 Petteri Räty (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-04-17 14:09:25 UTC
17:02 < Betelgeuse> psi29a: Basically trying to find out if you need dev access for anythign or should be retired.
17:03 < Betelgeuse> psi29a: Couldn't find any contributions.
17:03 < psi29a> I would like to still help test ~mips
17:03 < psi29a> things lately have been beyond my control
17:03 < Betelgeuse> psi29a: Well it's not like you can't come back if you are retired.
17:04 < Betelgeuse> psi29a: Just submit the quizes again. They haven't changed too much so it takes a couple of hours to get the privs back.
17:04 < psi29a> changed much?  haha, it has been over 3+ years
17:04 < psi29a> i'm just wondering why the forced retirement?
17:04 < psi29a> am I taking up to much space?
17:05 < Betelgeuse> psi29a: It's our policy to retire anyone with no contributions as far as I know.
17:05 < psi29a> *nods* fair enough, is there a deadline or does it have to be done today
17:05 < Betelgeuse> psi29a: Well the retirement process usually takes a month or two.
17:06 < Betelgeuse> psi29a: And you do get mail forwarded etc.
17:06 < psi29a> *nods* anything I can do to prevent the retirement?
17:07 < Betelgeuse> Start contributing?
17:07 < psi29a> I'll see what I can do. :D
17:07 < Betelgeuse> Ok so I will open your developer bug for retirement then.
17:08 < psi29a> not like I have a choice. 
Comment 22 Bret Curtis (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-04-21 16:30:44 UTC
Kumba informed me that spbecker is donating/trashing his MIPS machines. So I inquired:

[12:11] psi29a: kumba let me know that you where thinking of ditching the octane
[12:18] psi29a: just wondering if I can salvage what is left my dev abilities :P
[12:19] spbecker: if you want it, take it
[12:20] spbecker: but I don't think it is better than the one you already have
[12:20] psi29a: yours has more ram and may actually not suck.. since your kernels seem to work :P
[12:20] spbecker: 512mb of RAM I think
[12:20] psi29a: yeah, i had 384 
[12:21] psi29a: one 128 stick went bad on me
[12:21] spbecker: well, if you want it, you can come get it sometime
[12:21] psi29a: memtest86 doesn't work on mips :P
[12:21] spbecker: and while you're at it, if you want any other machines, take those too
[12:22] psi29a: *nods* cool
[12:22] spbecker: I don't plan on moving with them
[12:22] spbecker: so they'll either be donated or trashed
[12:22] psi29a: *nods*
[12:24] psi29a: well, in the next few days I'll swing by :D

So yes, getting hardware that works is priority number one, priority number two is be able to test those ~mips keywords, because just adding 'em isn't proper QA without actually making sure the packages work.

Obviously, you guys have had enough talk. :P  Lets see if I can get 'em running so I can actually earn that right to have commit access to cvs.

Being retired sucks.
Comment 23 Deedra Waters (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-06 22:16:26 UTC
What's the status here?

Comment 24 Bret Curtis (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-07 02:36:28 UTC
(In reply to comment #23)
> What's the status here?
> 
Well, some headway is made but little actual work with the tree. Feel free to retire me if that is the will of Gentoo.

I still use Gentoo, but I can honestly say I have not been as active and my spirit is kinda shot to hell.
Comment 25 Deedra Waters (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-08 02:54:09 UTC
Here's what kumba and i have decided.
1. he will go into a leave of absence sort of thing meaning he will lose 
commit access, but that's all.
2. he's got 8 months to get things back together again. If he doesn't 
get things together, i will retire him.
3.  if he is then ready to start committing again, he will retake both 
ebuild and eom quizzes.
4. before retiring him i'll get status reports from kumba and or him 
before retiring.
5. if he wants commit access before the end of that 8 months to become 
more active then he still must take  ebuild and eom quizzes.

I'm closing this bug as fixed for the time being.

Comment 26 Deedra Waters (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-08 02:56:45 UTC
Infra, please close out his cvs access, but keep everything else as 
normal.

Comment 27 Robin Johnson archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2007-06-08 05:00:28 UTC
LDAP attribute gentooAccess=cvs.gentoo.org removed for psi29a.
Comment 28 Petteri Räty (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-09-23 09:38:40 UTC
*** Bug 193488 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 29 Łukasz Damentko (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-03-10 10:23:01 UTC
Okay. 8 months have passed.

Bret, do you have any news for us regarding your situation?
Comment 30 Łukasz Damentko (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-03-19 22:10:49 UTC
Stephen Becker (spbecker) managed to contact Bret about his retirement. The answer he got was quote "(CENSORED)". So... Goodbye Bret.

Infra, please process Bret's retirement.
Comment 31 Joshua Kinard gentoo-dev 2008-03-21 02:42:32 UTC
In regards to Comment #30, I don't want that comment to be taken out of context, as it wasn't intended to be relayed to the public.  Bret's just had life beat him upside the head pretty much, and Gentoo is really, really low on the priority list as a result (trust me on this).  Hopefully no one's taken any offense from it, as that wasn't its purpose.
Comment 32 Stephen P. Becker 2008-03-21 12:06:11 UTC
(In reply to comment #30)
> Stephen Becker (spbecker) managed to contact Bret about his retirement. The
> answer he got was quote "(CENSORED)". So... Goodbye
> Bret.
> 
> Infra, please process Bret's retirement.
> 

Wow, way to take that comment out of context.  You forgot to add what I said immediately preceeding, that being "I won't comment on the reasons why...".  You didn't even bother to talk to him directly to find out what was up.  Fail.
Comment 33 Łukasz Damentko (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-03-21 12:46:06 UTC
I've already explained it all to Bret. This time directly.
Comment 34 Robin Johnson archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2008-03-21 20:11:01 UTC
as the bugzilla-admin I have censored the original quote per rane's request.
Comment 35 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-03-21 22:29:10 UTC
(In reply to comment #34)
> as the bugzilla-admin I have censored the original quote per rane's request.

WTF kind of precedent is this!? If someone doesn't wish to be quoted next time, they'd better keep their trap shut or think before speaking out.

Anyway, /me out of this bug, have had enough of noise about a developer being MIA for years without producing anything useful and finally getting 'offended' by the obnoxious comments they've themselves made.
Comment 36 Robin Johnson archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2008-05-27 06:18:27 UTC
infra-processed now.
Comment 37 Łukasz Damentko (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-05-27 13:03:24 UTC
- Removed access from #gentoo-dev
- Removed gentoo/developer cloak
- Removed from herds.xml
- Removed from project pages
- Reassigned all remaining bugs
Comment 38 Łukasz Damentko (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-05-31 17:01:37 UTC
- metadata done
Comment 39 (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-05-31 22:28:02 UTC
Not listed as a developer on the forums.
Comment 40 Łukasz Damentko (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-06-12 11:40:20 UTC
No planet account. Retirement complete.