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Bug#: 234716
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Reporter: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org>
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Description:   Opened: 2008-08-14 09:55 0000
Can people be entirely banned from Gentoo?

- What would such a ban include? Some ideas -- the person could not:
  - Post to any gentoo mailing list;
  - Post to gentoo bugzilla;
  - Participate in #gentoo- IRC channels;
  - Contribute to gentoo (hence my corner case of a security fix) except
    perhaps through a proxy;

- Why would we do it?

- Under whose authority would it happen?

- Would it be reversible? What conditions would cause this?

  Since the banned person couldn't participate in Gentoo, we'd never
  know whether anything changed.

- How would one appeal this? Would there be a chance to respond before
  the ban?

- Would moderating the gentoo-dev mailing list obsolete this concept?

------- Comment #1 From Doug Goldstein 2008-11-13 20:26:38 0000 -------
We'd love to get some feedback from userrel on this.

------- Comment #2 From Doug Goldstein 2008-11-13 20:54:47 0000 -------
As discussed by the Council on Nov 13th, 2008:

The Council charges the userrel team with establishing these policies and
guidelines and enforcing them. Since, each developer is also a user, the
userrel policies affect them as well.

------- Comment #3 From YLD 2009-01-09 18:35:45 0000 -------
This is common law problems with differents orientations according to local
traditions, but i think:

- What would such a ban include?

One, several or all the ideas for life or for an amount of time.

The reason and motivations of the ban should be publicly explained and
discussed (no more forbiden bugs or something alike). It's also better when the
judgement is related to an already existing articles of a "law".

It should be asked to ban people if they want to design someone as the proxy
maintainer for some of the package he or she was maintaining. The proxy could
be used to communicate with Gentoo.

- Why would we do it?

Preserve Gentoo's safety (dev's harmony, code, ...) and it's image.

- Under whose authority would it happen?

An authority recognized as fair by everybody, maybe something elected. All the
members of the something should receive a "call for ban" and a minimal
predefined majority should express a vote or vote for the ban.

It may be usefull to have an emergency procedure (for security reasons).

- Would it be reversible? What conditions would cause this?

Yes.

When the time is elapsed, when re-trial (in appeal), or (for example) after
half or time when the person is still participating to Gentoo (trough a proxy)
with a "redempted spirit" for example. The proxy could post the demand...

- How would one appeal this? Would there be a chance to respond before
  the ban?

No chance but the something that'll judge should be able to decide if an appeal
would be suspensive or not.

- Would moderating the gentoo-dev mailing list obsolete this concept?

The something that'll judge should be called (for a ban) by someone.

(In reply to comment #1)
> We'd love to get some feedback from userrel on this.
> 

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