Bugzilla Bug 140977

I'd like to write or wall messages to a user that has started KDE using startx
from a terminal login. Unfortunately, the messages don't get displayed on my
screen out of the box. They arrive at the terminal where I started the X
server, but as I prefer to do "startx & logout", this is not a good enough
solution.

kwrited aka. "KDE Write Daemon" is selected and running in the KDE Service
Manager part of the KDE Control Center.

The probably related KDE issue is stated in the URL. It states some KDE log
file, but I can't find any such on my system. Where do KDE log messages go on a
Gentoo ~x86 system?

The issue seems to be related to bug 18252, and probably to the transition from
utempter to libutempter.

"utmpdump < /var/run/utmp" only states the terminal where I started my X
session, nothing that seems related to kwrited.

Currently I have these versions installed:
kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.3  USE="-accessibility"
kde-base/konsole-3.5.3-r1  USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal
-kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama"
sys-libs/libutempter-1.1.4.1

I think bug 135818 might be related as well.
And that made me look at my kdelibs version as well:
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.3-r3
That is configured --without-utempter, so maybe I should not be surprised.

OK, it really was an utempter issue. I just wrote a patch I submitted as
bug 135818 comment 4 and with that it works, even if I "startx & logout".

I also found the messages of where KWrited was listening on one of the output
streams from startx, i.e. directly on the console. Strange thing is, before I
applied my patch, the KWrited lines appered in the shutdown portion, not during
startup.

Anyway, finding those I found that KDE allocates a new pty for kded, which is
the reason why closing the one where I started X is al right.

Should this bug here now be resolved DUPLICATE of 135818 or rather depend on
it?

Dupe is fine. ;)

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 135818 ***