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Bug#: 102128
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Assigned To: Xavier Neys <neysx@gentoo.org>
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Reporter: Ricky Campbell <cyberdork33@gmail.com>
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Description:   Opened: 2005-08-11 09:11 0000
the portage snapshot on the 2005.1 install disc is in the "snapshot" directory
not  the "snapshots" directory as stated in the manual

Reproducible: Always
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------- Comment #1 From Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) 2005-08-12 01:10:44 0000 -------
Which installdisk? install-x86-universal-2005.1.iso?

------- Comment #2 From Ricky Campbell 2005-08-14 19:29:41 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #1)
> Which installdisk? install-x86-universal-2005.1.iso?

correct

------- Comment #3 From Xavier Neys 2005-08-16 14:42:45 0000 -------
install-amd64-universal-2005.1.iso.CONTENTS:/snapshots/portage-20050709.tar.bz2
install-amd64-universal-2005.1.iso.CONTENTS:/snapshots/portage-20050709.tar.bz2.md5
install-hppa-universal-2005.1.iso.CONTENTS:/snapshots/portage-20050709.tar.bz2
install-ppc64-universal-2005.1.iso.CONTENTS:/snapshots/portage-20050709.tar.bz2
install-ppc64-universal-2005.1.iso.CONTENTS:/snapshots/portage-20050709.tar.bz2.md5
install-ppc-universal-2005.1.iso.CONTENTS:/snapshots/portage-20050709.tar.bz2
install-ppc-universal-2005.1.iso.CONTENTS:/snapshots/portage-20050709.tar.bz2.md5
install-sparc64-universal-2005.1.iso.CONTENTS:/snapshots/portage-20050709.tar.bz2
install-x86-universal-2005.1.iso.CONTENTS:/snapshot/portage-2005.1.tar.bz2

Any reason x86 uses a different directory and a different file name?
Any reason some arches have an md5 sum and others not?
Thanks guys!

------- Comment #4 From Xavier Neys 2005-08-16 14:57:06 0000 -------
Yet another red warning in the 2005.1 handbook.
Thanks for reporting.

------- Comment #5 From Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) 2005-11-21 06:50:12 0000 -------
I fixed this in the 2005.1-r1 media for x86.  Could we possibly get something
in
the Handbook to show this?  Also, could we recommend the 2005.1-r1 InstallCD
(minimal or universal) versus the 2005.1 ones for the released architectures?

That would be amd64, ppc64, sparc, and x86.

Thanks

------- Comment #6 From Xavier Neys 2005-11-21 07:04:41 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #5)
> I fixed this in the 2005.1-r1 media for x86.

Can you define 'this'? Did you rename the dir, the file name, or both?
Do all new CDs use the same portage snapshot? Which date?

> Could we possibly get something in
> the Handbook to show this?  Also, could we recommend the 2005.1-r1 InstallCD
> (minimal or universal) versus the 2005.1 ones for the released architectures?
> 
> That would be amd64, ppc64, sparc, and x86.

Sure.
What's changed? Where are the CD file lists? Something hopefully more useful than:
/livecd
/livecd.squashfs
/README.txt

------- Comment #7 From Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) 2005-11-21 08:08:17 0000 -------
Sorry, the snapshot for x86 is under /mnt/cdrom/snapshots as it was on all the
other arches.  The snapshot name has not changed and all the CD images use the
same snapshot.

The changes are mostly bug fixes.  We updated to gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 and
genkernel 3.3.6 to resolve most of the issues.  As for the file lists, they will
never be useful on the InstallCD images, except for the distfiles, I suppose, as
they really are nothing more than:

/livecd
/livecd.squashfs
/README.txt

Everything on the CD is contained inside the squashfs image.

------- Comment #8 From Xavier Neys 2005-11-23 04:35:12 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #7)
> The changes are mostly bug fixes.  We updated to gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 and
> genkernel 3.3.6 to resolve most of the issues.  As for the file lists, they will
> never be useful on the InstallCD images, except for the distfiles, I suppose, as
> they really are nothing more than:
> 
> /livecd
> /livecd.squashfs
> /README.txt
> 
> Everything on the CD is contained inside the squashfs image.

This is as useful as telling me the files are on the CD :)
I never said the listings should be on the media (can't find any reason either),
but they should be made available to us, as required by your own release guide
lines
(http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/docs/release_guidelines.xml#doc_chap2_sect2) 
They help us find answers instead of asking releng.

Can you confirm that the following warning can be removed?
"The stage3-athlon-xp-2005.1.tar.bz2, stage3-pentium3-2005.1.tar.bz2 and
stage3-pentium4-2005.1.tar.bz2 files have a serious permission error. After
extracting any of these, run chmod 0755 /mnt/gentoo to fix the error before
continuing with the installation."

I have started an install with an x86 Universal CD and will update the books as
appropriate.

Thanks.

------- Comment #9 From Xavier Neys 2005-11-23 06:07:36 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #7)
> We updated to gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 and

Does that apply to all 4 arches?
2005.1 Handbooks currently use
 x86:gentoo-sources-2.6.11-gentoo-r3
 amd64:gentoo-sources-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
 ppc64:gentoo-sources-2.6.12-gentoo-r4
 sparc:sparc-sources-2.4.29

Current ppc64 handbook still uses gentoo-sources-2.6.7-gentoo-r8
Probably an oversight.

------- Comment #10 From Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) 2005-11-23 07:19:44 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #8)
> > Everything on the CD is contained inside the squashfs image.
> 
> This is as useful as telling me the files are on the CD :)

OK.  Allow me to say this a little bit simpler.  There are only something like
10 files on the Minimal CD.  The only ones of any consequence are
livecd.squashfs (or image.squashfs with newer catalyst versions) and the kernel.
 The squashfs image is a loopback filesystem with all of the files contained
inside.  This means you will *not* get a "more useful" file listing, because
there isn't one.

There are 2 CD images where a file listing is useful.  The Universal CD, and the
Packages CD.

> I never said the listings should be on the media (can't find any reason either),

They aren't on the media, nor have they ever been on the media.

> but they should be made available to us, as required by your own release guide
> lines
>
(http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/docs/release_guidelines.xml#doc_chap2_sect2) 
> They help us find answers instead of asking releng.

*sigh*

Fine.  I'm just going to change the guidelines ot match what is reality.  That
it is only required for Universal and Packages.  Packages has not changed.  I'll
get you the Universal listings today.

> Can you confirm that the following warning can be removed?
> "The stage3-athlon-xp-2005.1.tar.bz2, stage3-pentium3-2005.1.tar.bz2 and
> stage3-pentium4-2005.1.tar.bz2 files have a serious permission error. After
> extracting any of these, run chmod 0755 /mnt/gentoo to fix the error before
> continuing with the installation."

I can confirm that there is no longer a permissions issue with those or any
other stages.

------- Comment #11 From Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) 2005-11-23 07:21:01 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #9)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > We updated to gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 and
> 
> Does that apply to all 4 arches?
> 2005.1 Handbooks currently use
>  x86:gentoo-sources-2.6.11-gentoo-r3

gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10

>  amd64:gentoo-sources-2.6.12-gentoo-r6

gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10

>  ppc64:gentoo-sources-2.6.12-gentoo-r4

gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10

>  sparc:sparc-sources-2.4.29

sparc-sources-2.4.31

> Current ppc64 handbook still uses gentoo-sources-2.6.7-gentoo-r8
> Probably an oversight.

Sorry, I was only speaking for x86, as that was what I had built.

------- Comment #12 From Xavier Neys 2005-11-24 09:29:26 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #10)
> (In reply to comment #8)
> > > Everything on the CD is contained inside the squashfs image.
> > 
> > This is as useful as telling me the files are on the CD :)
> 
> OK.  Allow me to say this a little bit simpler.

Looks like I need to do that well.
We regularly need answers to simple questions like what tools are available on a
booted livecd for any given arch like 'is lspci there?' or what text browser is
available 'is it links/links2/lynx?' or what versions of what source are
available...
That's why your guidelines say we need a listing of all contents, including of
the compressed file systems.
Feel free to change those guidelines and not send us the listings.
Instead of checking ourselves, we'll just reassign or forward the questions to
you. If that's what you want, fine with me.

Thanks for the kernel versions and other info.
8 handbooks have been updated.

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