The project page [1] does not list lead selection date. This usually means the last selection took place prior to the field being added. According to GLEP 39 [2]: > This [lead] selection must occur at least once every 12 months Please fill the missing data and run the selection process if overdue. [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections [2] https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0039.html
This project has a very "particular" goal in Gentoo and the people that have worked on it have never felt the need to have a lead for it. I'll let other members reply here with their view, but I don't see a need for a lead for this team. If others want one, we can have an election.
My script skipped the teams that do not have a lead. This bug is only filed because *there is a lead* indicated on the project page.
Lets just take the elections project page down. a) it would have no effect on how members of the ex-elections project cooperate to work together. b) it would stop the bugspam. If the project alias were to go away, persons conducting elections would be harder to contact as a group but that can be managed too. For the avoidance of doubt, not having a page on the wiki does not prevent a project like organisation being formed. Lets look at the finer points of GLEP 39 too. <quote> Specification A project is a group of developers working towards a goal (or a set of goals). A project exists if it has a maintained Wiki project page as described below. ("Maintained" means that the information on the page is factually correct and not out-of-date.) If the Wiki page isn't maintained, it is presumed dead. </quote> Fine. The converse is not true. I have already said that. <quote> It may have one or many leads, and the leads are selected by the members of the project. This selection must occur at least once every 12 months, and may occur at any time. </quote> This is a specification, the glep says so. "It may have one or many leads ..." In a specification, "may" indicates a permissible practice, not a mandated requirement. The words "must" and "shall" are used to indicate mandatory features. It follows, that the GLEP should be interpreted to read that leads are optional but if a project has one or more leads, the selection process "must occur at least once every 12 months".
(In reply to Roy Bamford from comment #3) > Lets just take the elections project page down. I'd prefer to keep the project and the page. Amongst other reasons, the elections archives is connected to it[1]. [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections#Election_archives > a) it would have no effect on how members of the ex-elections project > cooperate to work together. > b) it would stop the bugspam. True, but acknowledging we have people working together to run elections, is imho a "good thing". > Lets look at the finer points of GLEP 39 too. > <quote> > It may have one or many leads, and the leads are selected by the members of > the project. This selection must occur at least once every 12 months, and > may occur at any time. > </quote> > This is a specification, the glep says so. "It may have one or many leads > ..." > In a specification, "may" indicates a permissible practice, not a mandated > requirement. The words "must" and "shall" are used to indicate mandatory > features. > > It follows, that the GLEP should be interpreted to read that leads are > optional but if a project has one or more leads, the selection process "must > occur at least once every 12 months". For this reason, I'd prefer we drop the lead. I really haven't done anything special as lead, nor should I have done.
Dropping the lead works on the Wiki page works for me.
I'd prefer to drop the lead from the page as well, no lead is needed
I'm happy to drop the lead; and I think we now have 3/6 project members including the present lead, so that's enough unless somebody wants to dissent. The page itself should remain I agree, because it's a natural place to put info about prior elections.
