When using KDE software, pop-up windows asking a confirmation pop-up to the user results in a freeze for 20 seconds or so, at the first occurrence in a particular software instance. For example: 1. Launch kwrite 2. type a few characters so the document is in a changed state 3. press CTRL-Q Result: freeze of 20 seconds of the application before the save/discard/cancel pop-up appears. The delay only happens once per process. If pressing Cancel, then further calls to the pop-up within the same kwrite instance will be executed without delay. The problem happens with plasma-workspace-5.10.0, 5.10.1, 5.10.2, 5.10.2-r1 and not with <=plasma-workspaces-5.9.5.1-r1. The problem happens with many software using KDE frameworks (kwrite, gwenview, dolphin, okular, also labplot), but not plain Qt software and software based on other toolkits. The problem is not connected to a particular KDE configuration (same thing happens when creating a new user with empty home). When changing to another user using su and launching the software (e.g. kwrite): * some messages about dbus are displayed, such as: "Session bus not found\nTo circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash)\nexport $(dbus-launch)" * kwrite launches, problem does not happen (no delay in the pop-up) * after executing export $(dbus-launch) and launching kwrite, the problem happens again. * the problem does not happen when changing to root (using su) then launching kwrite. Example content for $(dbus-launch) in this situation: DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-wBJsI49fNi,guid=f0e1c744ab01fcd6c227365d5946b15d DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=13053 DBUS_SESSION_BUS_WINDOWID=16777217 For information, upstream changelog is https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.9.5-5.10.0-changelog.php There is fixed bug #614280 with somewhat similar symptoms but I think it is not related. Reproducible: Always Portage 2.3.5 (python 2.7.12-final-0, default/linux/amd64/13.0, gcc-5.4.0, glibc-2.23-r3, 4.11.5-gentoo x86_64) ================================================================= System uname: Linux-4.11.5-gentoo-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-_i7-2600K_CPU_@_3.40GHz-with-gentoo-2.3 KiB Mem: 14357056 total, 2604744 free KiB Swap: 17407996 total, 17407996 free Timestamp of repository gentoo: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:00:01 +0000 sh bash 4.3_p48-r1 ld GNU ld (Gentoo 2.26.1 p1.0) 2.26.1 app-shells/bash: 4.3_p48-r1::gentoo dev-java/java-config: 2.2.0-r3::gentoo dev-lang/perl: 5.24.1-r2::gentoo dev-lang/python: 2.7.12::gentoo, 3.4.5::gentoo dev-util/cmake: 3.7.2::gentoo dev-util/pkgconfig: 0.28-r2::gentoo sys-apps/baselayout: 2.3::gentoo sys-apps/openrc: 0.26.3::gentoo sys-apps/sandbox: 2.10-r3::gentoo sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13::gentoo, 2.69::gentoo sys-devel/automake: 1.14.1::gentoo, 1.15-r2::gentoo sys-devel/binutils: 2.26.1::gentoo, 2.28-r2::gentoo sys-devel/gcc: 4.9.3::gentoo, 5.4.0::gentoo, 6.3.0::gentoo sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.8::gentoo sys-devel/libtool: 2.4.6-r3::gentoo sys-devel/make: 4.2.1::gentoo sys-kernel/linux-headers: 4.10::gentoo (virtual/os-headers) sys-libs/glibc: 2.23-r3::gentoo Repositories: gentoo location: /usr/portage sync-type: rsync sync-uri: rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage priority: -1000 personnel location: /usr/overlays/personnel masters: gentoo priority: 0 hardened-development location: /var/lib/layman/hardened-development masters: gentoo priority: 50 palemoon location: /var/lib/layman/palemoon masters: gentoo priority: 50 stuff location: /var/lib/layman/stuff masters: gentoo priority: 50 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64" ACCEPT_LICENSE="* -@EULA" CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -mtune=native" CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/dconf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -mtune=native" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--with-bdeps=y --keep-going" FCFLAGS="-O2 -pipe" FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs config-protect-if-modified distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles merge-sync news parallel-fetch preserve-libs protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv usersandbox usersync xattr" FFLAGS="-O2 -pipe" GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.rnl.tecnico.ulisboa.pt/pub/gentoo/gentoo-distfiles/ ftp://mirror.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/ ftp://ftp.wh2.tu-dresden.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distribution/gentoo http://distfiles.gentoo.org" LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8" LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1" MAKEOPTS="-j6" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--itemize-changes --recursive --links --safe-links 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cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CALLIGRA_FEATURES="braindump flow karbon krita sheets stage words" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" CPU_FLAGS_X86="aes avx mmx mmxext popcnt sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3" ELIBC="glibc" GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock isync itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf skytraq superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ublox ubx" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" L10N="fr fr-FR" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="presenter-console presenter-minimizer" LINGUAS="fr pt de pt_PT fr_FR" OFFICE_IMPLEMENTATION="libreoffice" PHP_TARGETS="php5-6" 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How do you launch your Plasma session? Did you properly configure your desktop, e.g. dbus and consolekit in default runlevel?
(In reply to Andreas Sturmlechner from comment #1) I do not use the plasma desktop. I use x11-misc/slim and x11-wm/fluxbox, then I launch the KDE apps. Both dbus and consolekit appear in "rc-config list default".
But then what is plasma-workspace doing on your system and how would it influence applications on a foreign WM?
plasma-workspace was a dependency of notification-daemon due to USE=kde. I now removed the kde keyword, which allowed me to uninstall plasma-workspace. This is indeed a workaround for my problem, but still I think it should be ok to have more than one desktop environments on a computer, for testing and for the fun.
I can confirm this bug here on Fluxbox, e.g. in dolphin and okular, and my observations suggest that it is connected to the notification sound that is played: In Dolphin: Normal behaviour: When deleting a document permanently (Shift+Delete), a (blocking) popup dialog (or notification?) is opened, asking whether one really wants to delete the selected item. This is accompanied by a system sound announcing the popup (a "blinggg"). Buggy behaviour while constructing the first such popup: After creating the popup window frame but before drawing its content, dolphin now hangs completely for approximately 25 seconds. Then the content is drawn and the notification sound is played. HOWEVER: When opening another type of dialog, which is neither blocking nor accompanied by a system sound like the properties window (Alt+Return), this popup window is drawn instantly, even if it is the very first dialog window that was created by this instance of dolphin. (The sound playing blocking popup window still locks up dolphin for some time the first time it is opened) In Okular: Normal behaviour: When a search (not starting at the begin of the document) reaches the end of a document, okular (usually) shows a (blocking) popup dialog (or notification?) asking whether one wants to continue from the beginning. This is accompanied by a system sound announcing the popup (a "blinggg"). Buggy behaviour while constructing the first such popup: After creating the popup window frame but before drawing its content, Okular now hangs completely for approximately 25 seconds. Then the content is drawn and the notification sound is played. HOWEVER: When opening a blocking popup window, that does not play a sound on construction like "Settings -> Configure Okular", this popup window is drawn instantly, even if it is the very first dialog window that was created by this instance of okular. (The sound playing blocking popup window still locks up dolphin for some time the first time it is opened) This suggests, that the problem is related only to popup windows / notifications that play a system sound on construction. Is this observation (that the bug only occurs on sound-playing popups) in accordance with the observation at kwrite? Any ideas how to narrow down the search field for this bug even further?
Confirm with openbox and plasma-workspace-5.10.4-r2.
https://phabricator.kde.org/D5968 - can this be the reason..?
(In reply to Alexey Min from comment #7) > https://phabricator.kde.org/D5968 - can this be the reason..? Or, more precisely, this https://phabricator.kde.org/D5012 . But looking at code seems that waiter.h has: constexpr static const int dbusTimeoutSec = 60; not 20 or 30...
(In reply to Alexey Min from comment #7) > https://phabricator.kde.org/D5968 - can this be the reason..? Reverting this change, i.e. plasma-workspace commit ab60c3b, doesn't help.
Supposedly fixed upstream in https://cgit.kde.org/knotifications.git/commit/?id=1c97e1d9741fd15962474f47932dd09728dae76b Please backport into stable.
Thanks, backported in git. https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=b868d154f825023aa7cab38852336e2c30d6d18e Please test.
Haven't tested 5.34.0-r1, but tested 5.34.0 with the patch from commit on top and it helps a lot. There's still one observable issue with very slow tray icons appearance, but applications at least usable now.
(In reply to Andreas Sturmlechner from comment #3) > But then what is plasma-workspace doing on your system Actually, the presence of plasma-workspace on the system is necessary to enjoy the Open File dialog (editable location bar, tree view, etc.) instead of the simpler Qt dialog. (See also https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/3526u9/how_to_force_all_programs_to_use_kdialogs_file/ ) The Open Dialog in kate came back to normal now immediately after I emerged plasma-workspace (without ever launching plasma). Dialogs work good now. (Cannot say for tray icons, I do not use them.)
Thanks for investigating and taking this upstream. The original issue seems to be solved, if there are remaining systray issues please open a new bug upstream.
