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Bug 61214 - Livecd: gcc and make
Summary: Livecd: gcc and make
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Release Media
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Everything (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High enhancement (vote)
Assignee: PPC Porters
URL: http://linux-pel.blog-city.com/read/7...
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Depends on: 61152
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Reported: 2004-08-21 20:07 UTC by p.lavarre
Modified: 2004-08-26 12:37 UTC (History)
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Description p.lavarre 2004-08-21 20:07:25 UTC
gcc and make are missing when I boot PPC live CD.  make is not found, gcc has no profile.

Are they missing on purpose?  Is there a part of the documentation that discusses this?  Left to myself, I guess next I'll try download and burn of an .iso of ready-to-install packages, and hope to find them there in a form that will install ok into the ramdisk of the live CD any time I have two CD drives.


Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Boot PPC live CD.
2. Try make, see command not found.
3. Try gcc, see it choke.  Try gcc-config, see profile not found.
Actual Results:  
"2. Try make, see command not found."
"3. Try gcc, see it choke.  Try gcc-config, see profile not found."

Expected Results:  
gcc should compile .c programs, make should interpret Makefile scripts.
Comment 1 Benjamin Judas (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-08-22 02:31:26 UTC
The livecds are only used to boot your system. Their purpose is *not* to offer a working development-system, but only to boot your system, access the internet via $medium and download, extract, chroot your stage.
Comment 2 p.lavarre 2004-08-22 06:51:32 UTC
Incisively answered, thank you.

I will elaborate, in case that also helps:

> purpose is *not* to offer a working development-system,

In practice, by contrast,

The boot 2.6, Internet, /var/log, /proc, /sys, and X terminal (if reconfigured) of the gratis .iso of the Gentoo PPC live CD offers ...

... more of a PPC Linux peripheral device hardware development platform than any other gratis .iso live CD yet offers, according to the research recently blogged at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiveCD.  Gentoo Linux is to Mac/ PPC as Knoppix Linux is to x86, so far as I can tell.

Linux that are not live CD by definition instead demand of me the sacrifice and lugging about of a boot drive, such as a repartitioning.

I don't see how I can proceed except to try "download and burn of an .iso of ready-to-install packages, and hope to find them there in a form that will install ok into the ramdisk of the live CD any time I have two CD drives".  If that works, then I'll look into creating my own modified Gentoo live CD that includes gcc and make in usable form.

> not Open

The default guided bug entry form searches only for open bugs ... I guess now we'll see if this bug ever duplicates.
Comment 3 Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-08-22 10:12:14 UTC
You mean the KDE/Gnome LiveCD and not the Minimal or Universal LiveCD, correct?

Please refer to the KDE/Gnome LiveCD specifically if you mean it, as PPC is currently the only arch which offers it and it is different from the standard LiveCD, and not considered an "official" release, though the PPC team may be willing to support it, as I cannot speak for them.
Comment 4 p.lavarre 2004-08-22 14:33:51 UTC
> you mean the KDE/Gnome LiveCD ..
> not the Minimal or Universal LiveCD ... ?

Yes I mean the kde-gnome-universal-2004.2.iso of http://www.metadistribution.org/gentoo/2004.2/
Comment 5 Pieter Van den Abeele (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-08-23 06:59:20 UTC
I can built you a custom livecd if you want one, please email me at pvdabeel@gentoo.org. 

I'll give including gcc, make by default a thought, but I can't promise anything. We'll probably need a dvd to fit everything on the livecd that is currently not included (manpages for instance). I'm happy to include anything, but the total has to fit on a 700M livecd of course, which is why we have to filter some things.
Comment 6 p.lavarre 2004-08-26 12:37:45 UTC
> can built you a custom livecd if you want

Superb.  Yes man would be convenient, but gcc and make is all I know I need to build apps.  Also the gas assembler, I guess?

Meanwhile, I fetched packages-g4-2004.2.iso.  Most of its capacity appears dedicated to its All/*.tbz2 files.  None are named gcc.  I guess I'm off to Google.