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Bug 578172 - Is "the-Click-license" a duplicate of MIT/X11?
Summary: Is "the-Click-license" a duplicate of MIT/X11?
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Eclasses (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal normal (vote)
Assignee: Licenses team
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Reported: 2016-03-24 12:45 UTC by Ulrich Müller
Modified: 2016-04-01 17:06 UTC (History)
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Description Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2016-03-24 12:45:42 UTC
The main part of the-Click-license is a verbatim copy of MIT. The non-advertising clause has a slightly different wording, though:

X11:
[Except as contained in this notice, the name of <copyright holders>
shall not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use
or other dealings in this Software without prior written authorization
from <copyright holders>.]

the-Click-license:
The name and trademarks of copyright holders may NOT be used in advertising
or publicity pertaining to the Software without specific, written prior
permission. Title to copyright in this Software and any associated
documentation will at all times remain with copyright holders.

Since we don't distinguish between the X11 license (with the non-advertising clause) and the MIT license (without that clause), I think we can subsume the above under "MIT" as well.
Comment 1 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2016-03-24 19:29:44 UTC
Also, someone should contact upstream and ask them if they cannot use e.g. the X11 license instead (obviously, with s/the X Consortium/copyright holders/g) which is almost identical to theirs:
http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:X11

That would have the advantage that it is already approved by the FSF. License proliferation is bad because it means additional work for all downstreams.
Comment 2 Robin Johnson archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2016-03-24 22:40:46 UTC
I don't see the non-advertising clauses as equivalent.

the-Click-license explicitly specifies:
1. trademarks cannot be used in advertising
2. and that title is retained by the authors.

To cover them better:
#1 The trademark may cover more than simply the name. Consider the using the Gentoo logo without the name as an example: they are separate trademarks

#2 I has interesting implications for any third-party documentation (think README.gentoo): the software copyright owners are attempting to take it directly.
Comment 3 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2016-03-25 05:06:36 UTC
(In reply to Robin Johnson from comment #2)
> #1 The trademark may cover more than simply the name. Consider the using the
> Gentoo logo without the name as an example: they are separate trademarks

Indeed. Also it seems to include not only the trademarks associated with the software, but any trademarks of the copyright holders.

> #2 I has interesting implications for any third-party documentation (think
> README.gentoo): the software copyright owners are attempting to take it
> directly.

Does this even qualify as open source then? It seems to violate clause 9 of the Open Source Definition: https://opensource.org/osd.html
Comment 4 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2016-03-26 08:02:41 UTC
The clause in question is taken from the W3C license (which is approved by both FSF and OSI:

   The name and trademarks of copyright holders may NOT be used in
   advertising or publicity pertaining to the software without specific,
   written prior permission. Title to copyright in this software and any
   associated documentation will at all times remain with copyright
   holders.

So I guess we could add the the-Click-license to the MISC-FREE group.
Comment 5 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2016-04-01 17:06:25 UTC
(In reply to Ulrich Müller from comment #4)
> So I guess we could add the the-Click-license to the MISC-FREE group.

I see no objections, therefore committed now.