For me the Icons of Xfce's application menu are to small (16x16). In Xfce 4.10 the problem was solvable. I used the xfce4-settings-editor and entered in the section "xsettings --> GTK --> IconsSizes" the value "panel-launcher-menu=24,24". The effect was that the application menu got 24x24 icons. After updating to Xfce 4.12 this value is still the same but not recognized anymore meaning that the icon size in the application-menu is now 16x16. I use the stable amd64-portage-tree. So my Xfce 4.10 version was the actual stable one. To update to Xfce 4.12 I unmasked (~amd64) the following packages which I use currently: =xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.12.1-r1 =xfce-base/garcon-0.5.0-r1 =xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.12.1 =xfce-base/xfconf-4.12.0 =xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.12.0 =xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.12.0-r1 =xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.12.1 =xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.12.0 =xfce-base/xfwm4-4.12.3 =xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.12.2 Best regards Gerold Schellstede
I forgot to say that I use the standard menu, not the Whisker menu.
Pardon, the value working in 4.10 was "panel-applications-menu=24,24" and not "panel-launcher-menu=24,24". The value "panel-launcher-menu=24,24" was a suggestion by an ubuntu community-site. It works neither in 4.10 nor in 4.12
Isn't that more of an upstream issue?
What means upstream issue in this context? I think there are only two possibilities: 1) It is a serious bug 2) The command "panel-launcher-menu=24,24" changed to something else what is unknown and not documented. This comes down to nearly the same problem as 1)
What means upstream issue in this context? I think there are only two possibilities: 1) It is a serious bug 2) The command "panel-applications-menu=24,24" changed to something else what is unknown and not documented. This comes down to nearly the same problem as 1)
See https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11757
The bug becomes more and more worse because Xfce 4.12 is now stable. Is there any way to overcome this really annoying problem? Best regards Gerold Schellstede
What resolution screen do you have? and the physical size too. Can you attach the output of the `xdpyinfo' command? Is it just the icons that are too small or are the fonts too small also?
Created attachment 406260 [details] xdpyinfo Tanks for the reply. The native resolution of my Monitor is 1920x1200 and I use this resolution also for xfce. And yes, only the icon-size is wrong the font-size is ok. Thereby it is not relevant if one sets the icon-size globally in "/etc/xdg/.../xstettings.xml" oder locally in the xsettings-editor. At xfce-bugzilla (https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11757) another user made a patch and putted the old xfce-4.10-application-menu into xfce-4.12 (it is part of the xfce4-panel package). But only applying the patch led to an emerge-error at my system. I think because one needs the source files of the 4.10 version too.
(In reply to Gerold Schellstede from comment #9) > Created attachment 406260 [details] > xdpyinfo > > Tanks for the reply. > The native resolution of my Monitor is 1920x1200 and I use this resolution > also for xfce. > > And yes, only the icon-size is wrong the font-size is ok. So I have a similar resolution and size to your screen. Just to clarify that I understand correctly, My top panel (right click->panel prefs->display->row size) is 30pixels and the icons in the panel fill it. Then if I click Applications, the icons in the menu are a bit smaller than the panel icons. Changing row size does not affect the applications menu unfortunately. And you want the menu icons to be bigger? Is this correct? If this is incorrect can you attach a screenshot of the panel and applications menu (Set the greybird theme first, see below). > Thereby it is not relevant if one sets the icon-size globally in > "/etc/xdg/.../xstettings.xml" oder locally in the xsettings-editor. > > At xfce-bugzilla (https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11757) another > user made a patch and putted the old xfce-4.10-application-menu into > xfce-4.12 (it is part of the xfce4-panel package). But only applying the > patch led to an emerge-error at my system. I think because one needs the > source files of the 4.10 version too. I saw that in the upstream report and it doesnt sound like it will work. Ripping out part of the program without the rest matching sounds like it will only cause problems. That said, I was looking through the diffs in the git repo and comparing 4.10 and 4.12. 4.12 uses GTK3 now whereas 4.10 used GTK2. (In reply to Gerold Schellstede from comment #0) > For me the Icons of Xfce's application menu are to small (16x16). > > In Xfce 4.10 the problem was solvable. I used the xfce4-settings-editor and > entered in the section "xsettings --> GTK --> IconsSizes" the value > "panel-launcher-menu=24,24". The effect was that the application menu got > 24x24 icons. I suspect "GTK" might mean gtk2 not 3. Theming changed a lot between gtk2/3 (gtk3 is CSS) so I suspect the IconSizes thing will have changed to something else. What theme are you using? Can you test out using x11-themes/greybird since it works well for both gtk2 and gtk3 and then we'll be on the same page.
Created attachment 406356 [details] Situation with Xfce 4.12
Created attachment 406362 [details] Situation with Xfce 4.10 Thank for your answer. You solved my problem. Before your last post, the problem looked like shown by my two pictures (One with Xfce 4.12 and one with Xfce 4.10). The solution came along with your suggestion to test everything with greybird. I did not have greybird installed previously so my first step after your post was to install it. Then I restarted X and surprisingly now everything works like it should. Thereby it is worth to notice that I do not changed the theme I use (Clearlooks with Metabox) to greybird not even for testing. Obviously some parts of the packages pulled in by the installation of greybird are needed for all themes to scale the icons properly. The packages pulled in by the emerge of greybird were: x11-themes/murrine-themes-0.98.0 x11-themes/gtk-engines-murrine-0.98.2-r1 x11-themes/greybird-1.5.3 I would suggest to mark the needed packages as an emerge-dependency for Xfce4-panel 4.12 to solve the problem. Many thanks!!! Gerold
(In reply to Gerold Schellstede from comment #12) > Thank for your answer. You solved my problem. Great that its fixed. > Then I restarted X and surprisingly now everything works like it should. > Thereby it is worth to notice that I do not changed the theme I use > (Clearlooks with Metabox) to greybird not even for testing. What theme were you using before? and which themes and engines did you have installed? What is the output of "qlist -CIv x11-themes/" > Obviously some parts of the packages pulled in by the installation of > greybird are needed for all themes to scale the icons properly. > > The packages pulled in by the emerge of greybird were: > x11-themes/murrine-themes-0.98.0 > x11-themes/gtk-engines-murrine-0.98.2-r1 > x11-themes/greybird-1.5.3 > > I would suggest to mark the needed packages as an emerge-dependency for > Xfce4-panel 4.12 to solve the problem. So it worked just by having those packages installed even with the selected theme as your old one? you did not have to have greybird selected? Can you un-merge them one-by-one and see which package it is that breaks it. The dependency is probably missing from the theme that you had installed before not from xfce4-panel itself. Once we narrow down which you had installed before and which is the important one, I'll add to the right place.
> What theme were you using before? and which themes and engines did you have > installed? > What is the output of "qlist -CIv x11-themes/" I used Clearlooks + Metabox before and after. I never selected greybird. But the problem was not related to Clearlooks + Metabox only. Other themes like adawita or something else I tested showed the same problem. qlist -CIv x11-themes --> x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme-3.14.1-r1 x11-themes/clearlooks-phenix-3.0.15 x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-3.12.0 x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic-3.12.0 x11-themes/greybird-1.5.3 x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.20.2-r1 x11-themes/gtk-engines-murrine-0.98.2-r1 x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.2.0-r200 x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.2.0-r300 x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.15 x11-themes/murrine-themes-0.98.0 x11-themes/slim-themes-1.2.3a-r6 x11-themes/xfwm4-themes-4.10.0 > So it worked just by having those packages installed even with the selected > theme as your old one? you did not have to have greybird selected? Can you > un-merge them one-by-one and see which package it is that breaks it. The > dependency is probably missing from the theme that you had installed before > not from xfce4-panel itself. Once we narrow down which you had installed > before and which is the important one, I'll add to the right place. That is true, I never selected greybird. Before the installation it worked with non of the themes. After the installation all themes work (I checked it with more then 10 themes) I cannot say which package of the 3 ones mentioned above did the trick, because if I uninstall all of them it still works. I think there is a link or setting one of the three greybird packages make which is necessary for the other theme to apply the Icon-Size setting set in xsetnnings.xml. Probably only a few people recognize the problem, because greybird is installed on most machines.
i(In reply to Gerold Schellstede from comment #14) > > What theme were you using before? and which themes and engines did you have > > installed? > > What is the output of "qlist -CIv x11-themes/" > I used Clearlooks + Metabox before and after. I never selected greybird. But > the problem was not related to Clearlooks + Metabox only. Other themes like > adawita or something else I tested showed the same problem. > > qlist -CIv x11-themes --> > x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme-3.14.1-r1 > x11-themes/clearlooks-phenix-3.0.15 > x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-3.12.0 > x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic-3.12.0 > x11-themes/greybird-1.5.3 > x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.20.2-r1 > x11-themes/gtk-engines-murrine-0.98.2-r1 > x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.2.0-r200 > x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.2.0-r300 > x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.15 > x11-themes/murrine-themes-0.98.0 > x11-themes/slim-themes-1.2.3a-r6 > x11-themes/xfwm4-themes-4.10.0 All of these apart from the new ones and x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.2.0-r300 are for gtk2 I think. Can you remove them and remove the SLOT=3 version of gtk-engines-xfce (the -r300 one). gtk-engines-xfce:3 is needed to make the stock xfce themes work with GTK3 (slot=0 is for gtk2) can you run equery d x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce and see what is pulling it in? and then remove it (forcibly if required) and see if your themes break. xfce-meta has a dep on slot 0 but not slot 3, I'll add it if you confirm that is causing the breakage.
equery says xfce-base/xfce4-meta I tried what you suggested, but the bug is gone. I cannot recover it. Again, thanks a lot.
Well, as long as your problem is fixed now then :)
