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Bug 29600 - Metalog a good recommendation ?
Summary: Metalog a good recommendation ?
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: [OLD] Docs-user
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Gentoo Linux x86 Installation Guide (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED)
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Reported: 2003-09-25 10:56 UTC by Steven Wagner
Modified: 2003-09-27 11:10 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Runtime testing required: ---


Attachments
Patch 1/2: (installation guide) remove metalogd extravaganza (gentoo-x86-install.diff-no_metalogd_per_default,2.06 KB, patch)
2003-09-26 02:24 UTC, Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED)
Details | Diff
Patch 2/2: (fax) add metalogd buffering information (faq.diff-add_metalog_buffering,1.53 KB, patch)
2003-09-26 02:25 UTC, Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED)
Details | Diff
Patch 1/2: (installation guide) same as before plus a small note about the FAQ (gentoo-x86-install.diff-no_metalogd_per_default,1.98 KB, patch)
2003-09-27 05:31 UTC, Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED)
Details | Diff

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Description Steven Wagner 2003-09-25 10:56:02 UTC
"Power users seem to gravitate away from sysklogd (not very good performance)
and towards the newer alternatives. If in doubt, you may want to try metalog,
since it seems to be quite popular."

Maybe I don't understand enough here, but metalog doesn't give users a
/var/log/messages file.  This tends to throw people off who immediately want to
be power users and can't find a messages file to tail.  Ive talked to numerous
newbies in #gentoo who all installed metalog and then got lost when trying to
change it.  My suggestion is to maybe recommend a different alternative, or to
make a note to users telling them they arn't going to have a /var/log/messages
file with metalog.  

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
Comment 1 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-09-25 12:48:02 UTC
What does metalogd then (default) put the messages in?
Comment 2 Markus Nigbur (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-09-25 13:48:24 UTC
/var/log/everything/current
Comment 3 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-09-26 01:03:20 UTC
I'll go with my own choice then, syslog-ng... any objections?
Comment 4 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-09-26 02:24:12 UTC
Created attachment 18353 [details, diff]
Patch 1/2: (installation guide) remove metalogd extravaganza

This patch removes the recommendation to use metalogd and "recommends"
syslog-ng. It also removes the metalogd-buffering information, which will
be
added as a FAQ.
Comment 5 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-09-26 02:25:09 UTC
Created attachment 18354 [details, diff]
Patch 2/2: (fax) add metalogd buffering information
Comment 6 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-09-27 05:31:46 UTC
Created attachment 18394 [details, diff]
Patch 1/2: (installation guide) same as before plus a small note about the FAQ
Comment 7 Benny Chuang (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-09-27 05:39:38 UTC
patches are looking good :)
Comment 8 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-09-27 11:10:54 UTC
committed. Thanks for reporting