The amount of media-codecs useflags in some packages (eg mplayer) are just becoming overwhelmingly large making it difficult to get an overview and separate them from other useflags. Suggest creating a subgroup for them (like linguas, video_cards, input_devices etc) called eg media_codecs. This would substantially aid a user in getting an overview of and selecting apropriate useflags for media apps. Example eix output with all useflags --- 1.0_rc1-r2(-3dfx -3dnow -3dnowext X -aac -aalib alsa -altivec -amr -arts -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dga -directfb doc -dts -dv -dvb dvd -dvdread -enca encode esd -fbcon -ggi gif gtk iconv ipv6 -jack -joystick jpeg -libcaca -linguas_bg -linguas_cs -linguas_da -linguas_de -linguas_el linguas_en -linguas_es -linguas_fr linguas_hu -linguas_ja -linguas_ko -linguas_mk -linguas_nl -linguas_no -linguas_pl -linguas_pt_BR -linguas_ro linguas_ru -linguas_sk -linguas_tr -linguas_uk -linguas_zh_CN -linguas_zh_TW -lirc -live -livecd -lzo mad -matrox -mmx -mmxext -musepack -nas -openal opengl oss png -real -rtc -samba sdl -speex -sse -sse2 -svga -tga -theora truetype unicode -v4l v4l2 vorbis win32codecs -x264 -xanim xinerama xv -xvid -xvmc) ---- Reproducible: Always
Not going to happen, sorry. See http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0029.html and read the gentoo-dev mailing list archives for reasons why this never got anywhere... (Note that abusing USE_EXPAND for such stuff wouldn't solve absolutely anything, just would make the flags longer and would require loads of pointless ebuild work).
Thanks a for the link to the GELP. :) Sad to hear though that this never took off because it has the potential to greatly clarify things for users. I guess this would still be possible to implement this virtually from the package manager or "eix" side without actually changing things in ebuilds. Guess that why it was resolved as UPSTREAM?
UPSTREAM as in filing bugs won't move this anywhere... :) Some links to relevant threads, definitely incomplete. http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_72211.xml http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_118191.xml And no, package managers won't cut it if people can't even agree on whether/how this should be implemented. ;)
> And no, package managers won't cut it if people can't even agree on whether/how this should be implemented. ;) Hmm, Im not sure you fully understood exactly what I wanted. Im not after a way to turn on/off a bunch of useflags with one command (which BTW AFAICT is already present in Paludis http://paludis.pioto.org/sets.html) What Im after is simply to turn eg eix output from media-plugins/audacious-plugins -aac alsa -arts -chardet esd -flac -jack -lirc -modplug mp3 -musepack nls oss -pulseaudio -sid -sndfile -timidity vorbis -wavpack -wma into eg (just a quick example, might have some useflags in wrong group) media-plugins/audacious-plugins alsa -arts -chardet esd -jack -lirc nls oss -pulseaudio media_codec: -aac -flac -modplug mp3 -musepack -sid -sndfile -timidity vorbis -wavpack -wma Thus the whole "what happens with -useflag" issue just doesnt apply here because Im only looking for a way to change visual output and organize it in a sensible way. The adding&removing of the useflags them selves can remain completely unchanged from how its done now.
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