I'm trying to install a number of new packages on a new system with the following command: emerge syslog-ng fcron xfsprogs reiserfsprogs jfsutils lvm2 dhcpcd madwifi-ng{-tools,} wpa_supplicant pcmcia-cs grub It's going to install: (c1) blatt init.d # time emerge -vpt syslog-ng fcron xfsprogs reiserfsprogs jfsutils lvm2 dhcpcd madwifi-ng{-tools,} wpa_supplicant pcmcia-cs grub These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] sys-boot/grub-0.97-r3 USE="-custom-cflags -netboot static" 1,006 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/pcmcia-cs-3.2.9_pre20050614 USE="X gtk -trusted -vanilla -xforms" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-util/yacc-1.9.1-r3 0 kB [ebuild N ] net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-0.5.7 USE="dbus -gnutls -gsm madwifi qt3 qt4 readline ssl" 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-4.2.3 USE="-accessibility -cups dbus -debug -doc -examples -firebird gif -glib jpeg -mng -mysql -nas -nis -odbc opengl pch png -postgres -qt3support sqlite sqlite3 -xinerama zlib" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-db/sqlite-3.3.12 USE="-debug -doc -nothreadsafe -tcl" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-db/sqlite-2.8.16-r4 USE="-doc nls -tcl" 958 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2-r1 USE="X -debug doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-doc/doxygen-1.5.1 USE="-doc qt3 -tetex unicode" 2,834 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/ghostscript-0 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.54 USE="X -cjk -cups -djvu -emacs gtk -jpeg2k" 12,082 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std-8.11 3,664 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/tiff-3.8.2-r2 USE="-jbig jpeg -nocxx zlib" 1,313 kB [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8 USE="-cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird gif -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6 -mysql -nas -nis -odbc opengl -postgres sqlite -xinerama" 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/libmng-1.0.9-r1 USE="-lcms" 541 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/opengl-7.0 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/glu-7.0 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.16.1 USE="-debug" 2,432 kB [ebuild N ] x11-misc/icon-naming-utils-0.8.2 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-Simple-2.16 67 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-LibXML-1.62.001-r1 225 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-LibXML-Common-0.13 12 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Test-Simple-0.67 0 kB [ebuild N ] perl-core/Test-Simple-0.67 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Storable-2.15 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-SAX-0.15-r1 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-NamespaceSupport-1.09 7 kB [ebuild N ] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.10 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-gfx/graphviz-2.12 USE="X -doc -examples gnome gtk nls -pango perl python -ruby -tcl -tk" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.16.1 USE="-debug -doc jpeg" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.16.0 USE="X -debug -doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0 USE="X -debug -doc -static" 597 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.19-r1 USE="-debug" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.4-r5 USE="-debug" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.6.0 USE="-debug" 465 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.16.0 USE="-debug -doc esd" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1 USE="-avahi -debug -doc -gnutls hal -ipv6 -samba ssl" 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-admin/gamin-0.1.8 USE="-debug -doc" 551 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gconf-2.14.0 USE="-debug -doc" 1,851 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.7.1-r5 USE="-acpi crypt -debug -dmi -doc -pcmcia" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libusb-0.1.12 USE="-debug -doc" 380 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/pciutils-2.2.4-r2 USE="zlib" 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-luks-1.0.4-r1 USE="-build -dynamic nls" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.73 USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/eject-2.1.5-r1 USE="nls" 120 kB [ebuild R ] net-wireless/madwifi-ng-0.9.2.1 USE="-amrr -injection onoe" 0 kB [ebuild R ] net-wireless/madwifi-ng-tools-0.9.2 0 kB [ebuild R ] net-misc/dhcpcd-3.0.16 0 kB [ebuild R ] sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.17 USE="-clvm -cman -gulm nolvm1 -nolvmstatic nomirrors -nosnapshots readline" 0 kB [ebuild R ] sys-fs/jfsutils-1.1.11 USE="-static" 0 kB [ebuild R ] sys-fs/reiserfsprogs-3.6.19-r1 0 kB [ebuild R ] sys-fs/xfsprogs-2.8.18 USE="nls" 0 kB [ebuild R ] sys-process/fcron-3.0.2 USE="-debug doc -pam" 0 kB [ebuild R ] app-admin/syslog-ng-1.6.12 USE="-hardened -static tcpd" 0 kB Total size of downloads: 29,114 kB It fails while trying to install dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.73: [...] checking for XML_ParserCreate_MM in -lexpat... yes checking expat.h usability... yes checking expat.h presence... yes checking for expat.h... yes checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-pkg-config... no checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes checking for DBUS... configure: error: DBus development libraries not found !!! Please attach the following file when filing a report to bugs.gentoo.org: !!! /Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dbus-glib-0.73/work/dbus-glib-0.73/config.log !!! ERROR: dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.73 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 939: Called src_compile dbus-glib-0.73.ebuild, line 35: Called econf '--disable-selinux' '--disable-verbose-mode' '--disable-checks' '--disable-asserts' '--with-xml=libxml' '--with-system-pid-file=/var/run/dbus.pid' '--with-system-socket=/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket' '--with-session-socket-dir=/tmp' '--with-dbus-user=messagebus' '--localstatedir=/var' '--disable-doxygen-docs' '--disable-xml-docs' ebuild.sh, line 541: Called die !!! econf failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. I suppose the problem is, that sys-apps/dbus is not yet installed. IOW: The order in which the packages are going to be emerged is wrong.
Created attachment 113299 [details] dbus-glib config.log (c1) blatt init.d # emerge --info Portage 2.1-r2 (default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.4-r3, 2.6.19-suspend2-r3.045 i686) ================================================================= System uname: 2.6.19-suspend2-r3.045 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz Gentoo Base System version 1.12.1 app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present] dev-java/java-config: [Not Present] dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r1 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r3 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -mtune=pentium-m -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/terminfo" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mtune=pentium-m -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" DISTDIR="/Gentoo/Portage/distfiles" EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--alphabetical" FEATURES="autoconfig ccache collision-protect distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/gentoo/ http://gentoo.mirror.solnet.ch http://distfiles.gentoo.org/" LANG="de_DE.UTF-8" LINGUAS="de" PKGDIR="/Gentoo/Portage/packages" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/Gentoo/Portage/build" PORTDIR="/Gentoo/Portage/tree" PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/Gentoo/Portage/local-tree/misc" SYNC="rsync://rsync.ch.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="x86 X alsa bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts cairo cdr cli cracklib crypt dbus dri dvd dvdr eds emboss encode esd fam firefox fortran gdbm gif gnome gstreamer gtk hal iconv isdnlog jpeg kde kdeenablefinal kdehiddenvisibility ldap libedit libg++ libnotify mad midi mikmod mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl oss pcre perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl tcpd truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode vorbis win32codecs xcb xml xorg xv zlib alsa_cards_loopback alsa_cards_usb-audio alsa_cards_via82xx alsa_pcm_plugins_adpcm alsa_pcm_plugins_alaw alsa_pcm_plugins_asym alsa_pcm_plugins_copy alsa_pcm_plugins_dmix alsa_pcm_plugins_dshare alsa_pcm_plugins_dsnoop alsa_pcm_plugins_empty alsa_pcm_plugins_extplug alsa_pcm_plugins_file alsa_pcm_plugins_hooks alsa_pcm_plugins_iec958 alsa_pcm_plugins_ioplug alsa_pcm_plugins_ladspa alsa_pcm_plugins_lfloat alsa_pcm_plugins_linear alsa_pcm_plugins_meter alsa_pcm_plugins_mulaw alsa_pcm_plugins_multi alsa_pcm_plugins_null alsa_pcm_plugins_plug alsa_pcm_plugins_rate alsa_pcm_plugins_route alsa_pcm_plugins_share alsa_pcm_plugins_shm alsa_pcm_plugins_softvol elibc_glibc input_devices_evdev input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse input_devices_synaptics kernel_linux lcd_devices_bayrad lcd_devices_cfontz lcd_devices_cfontz633 lcd_devices_glk lcd_devices_hd44780 lcd_devices_lb216 lcd_devices_lcdm001 lcd_devices_mtxorb lcd_devices_ncurses lcd_devices_text linguas_de userland_GNU video_cards_fbdev video_cards_vesa video_cards_vga video_cards_via" Unset: CTARGET, INSTALL_MASK, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, MAKEOPTS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS
When I try to compile "only" wpa_supplicant, the following packages are going to be emerged: (c1) blatt init.d # time emerge -va --tree wpa_supplicant These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-0.5.7 USE="dbus -gnutls -gsm madwifi qt3 qt4 readline ssl" 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-4.2.3 USE="-accessibility -cups dbus -debug -doc -examples -firebird gif -glib jpeg -mng -mysql -nas -nis -odbc opengl pch png -postgres -qt3support sqlite sqlite3 -xinerama zlib" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-db/sqlite-3.3.12 USE="-debug -doc -nothreadsafe -tcl" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-db/sqlite-2.8.16-r4 USE="-doc nls -tcl" 958 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2-r1 USE="X -debug doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-doc/doxygen-1.5.1 USE="-doc qt3 -tetex unicode" 2,834 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/ghostscript-0 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.54 USE="X -cjk -cups -djvu -emacs gtk -jpeg2k" 12,082 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std-8.11 3,664 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/tiff-3.8.2-r2 USE="-jbig jpeg -nocxx zlib" 1,313 kB [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8 USE="-cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird gif -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6 -mysql -nas -nis -odbc opengl -postgres sqlite -xinerama" 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/libmng-1.0.9-r1 USE="-lcms" 541 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/opengl-7.0 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/glu-7.0 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.16.1 USE="-debug" 2,432 kB [ebuild N ] x11-misc/icon-naming-utils-0.8.2 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-Simple-2.16 67 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-LibXML-1.62.001-r1 225 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-LibXML-Common-0.13 12 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Test-Simple-0.67 0 kB [ebuild N ] perl-core/Test-Simple-0.67 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Storable-2.15 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-SAX-0.15-r1 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-NamespaceSupport-1.09 7 kB [ebuild N ] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.10 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-gfx/graphviz-2.12 USE="X -doc -examples gnome gtk nls -pango perl python -ruby -tcl -tk" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.16.1 USE="-debug -doc jpeg" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.16.0 USE="X -debug -doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0 USE="X -debug -doc -static" 597 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.19-r1 USE="-debug" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.4-r5 USE="-debug" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.6.0 USE="-debug" 465 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.16.0 USE="-debug -doc esd" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1 USE="-avahi -debug -doc -gnutls hal -ipv6 -samba ssl" 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-admin/gamin-0.1.8 USE="-debug -doc" 551 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gconf-2.14.0 USE="-debug -doc" 1,851 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.7.1-r5 USE="-acpi crypt -debug -dmi -doc -pcmcia" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libusb-0.1.12 USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/pciutils-2.2.4-r2 USE="zlib" 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-luks-1.0.4-r1 USE="-build -dynamic nls" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.73 USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB Total size of downloads: 27,607 kB Ie. first package to be emerged is dbus-glib (it's last, due to the "--tree" option). Almost one of the last packages is dbus. That's wrong. I'm now going to "emerge -1 dbus", but shouldn't emerge get it right all by itself?
(In reply to comment #2) > I'm now going to "emerge -1 dbus", but shouldn't emerge get it right all by > itself? Hmm... No good... When I try to "emerge -1 dbus", dbus-glib should be installed first as well: (c1) blatt init.d # emerge -vpt dbus These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2-r1 USE="X -debug doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-doc/doxygen-1.5.1 USE="-doc qt3 -tetex unicode" 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/ghostscript-0 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.54 USE="X -cjk -cups -djvu -emacs gtk -jpeg2k" 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std-8.11 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/tiff-3.8.2-r2 USE="-jbig jpeg -nocxx zlib" 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8 USE="-cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird gif -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6 -mysql -nas -nis -odbc opengl -postgres sqlite -xinerama" 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/libmng-1.0.9-r1 USE="-lcms" 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/opengl-7.0 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/glu-7.0 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.16.1 USE="-debug" 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-misc/icon-naming-utils-0.8.2 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-Simple-2.16 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-LibXML-1.62.001-r1 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-LibXML-Common-0.13 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Test-Simple-0.67 0 kB [ebuild N ] perl-core/Test-Simple-0.67 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Storable-2.15 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-SAX-0.15-r1 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-NamespaceSupport-1.09 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.10 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-gfx/graphviz-2.12 USE="X -doc -examples gnome gtk nls -pango perl python -ruby -tcl -tk" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.16.1 USE="-debug -doc jpeg" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.16.0 USE="X -debug -doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0 USE="X -debug -doc -static" 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.19-r1 USE="-debug" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.4-r5 USE="-debug" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.6.0 USE="-debug" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.16.0 USE="-debug -doc esd" 0 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1 USE="-avahi -debug doc gnutls hal -ipv6 samba ssl" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8 USE="-debug -doc -emacs" 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14-r2 USE="nls" 663 kB [ebuild NS ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r6 73 kB [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gconf-2.14.0 USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] net-fs/samba-3.0.24 USE="-acl -async automount -caps -cups -doc -examples fam -kerberos -ldap -oav -pam -python -quotas -readline -swat -syslog -winbind" LINGUAS="-ja -pl" 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-admin/gamin-0.1.8 USE="-debug doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] net-libs/gnutls-1.6.1 USE="-doc nls zlib" 4,127 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libtasn1-0.3.5 USE="-doc" 1,222 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/lzo-2.02-r1 USE="-examples" 585 kB [ebuild N ] app-crypt/opencdk-0.5.7 USE="-doc" 468 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.7.1-r5 USE="acpi crypt -debug -dmi doc pcmcia" 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-luks-1.0.4-r1 USE="-build -dynamic nls" 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/pciutils-2.2.4-r2 USE="zlib" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libusb-0.1.12 USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 USE="-tetex" 122 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd-1.0-r1 30 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4-r2 34 kB [ebuild N ] www-client/lynx-2.8.6-r2 USE="-bzip2 -cjk -ipv6 nls ssl unicode" LINGUAS="-ja" 2,237 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r3 54 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.0-r3 42 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/SGMLSpm-1.03-r5 91 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.0-r3 54 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r3 55 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/openjade-1.3.2-r1 873 kB [ebuild N ] app-text/opensp-1.5.2-r1 USE="-doc nls" 1,485 kB [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gettext-0.16.1 [0.14.4] USE="-doc -emacs nls -nocxx%" 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.73 USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB Total size of downloads: 12,223 kB How to overcome this?
Post your portage version and run the above with --debug and attach the output there.
He did post his Portage version.. 2.1-r2... Which needs to first be updated to the latest stable... First rule of emerging... Don't bother until you are at least at the latest stable Portage... So emerge portage. Secondly, jakub... I'm in gentopia.. don't double CC me plz... It hurts my e-mail brain... :(
(In reply to comment #5) > He did post his Portage version.. 2.1-r2... Which needs to first be updated to > the latest stable... First rule of emerging... Don't bother until you are at > least at the latest stable Portage... So emerge portage. I upgraded portage to latest version (I thought I was, to be honest, but I failed to check that). After that, emerge stops because of circular dependencies. Fine. Going to close bug because of this. > Secondly, jakub... I'm in gentopia.. don't double CC me plz... It hurts my > e-mail brain... :( That's my fault. I added you and gentopia to CC. Sorry for that.
