Please stop masking of beep-media-player and its plugins. It is only one mp3 player, that is fully stable, functional and integrated in GNOME. The replacements proposed is in pre alpha state. It is totally inaceptable to remove working and stable applications from portage in favor to some alpha-new projects. here is a copy-paste from /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: --- # Tony Vroon <chainsaw@gentoo.org> (18 Feb 2006) # Masked pending removal - upstream has discontinued this project # Your upgrade path is media-sound/audacious; removal of this package is planned on 04/03/2006 media-sound/beep-media-player media-plugins/bmp-arts media-plugins/bmp-crossfade media-plugins/bmp-docklet media-plugins/bmp-find media-plugins/bmp-infopipe media-plugins/bmp-itouch media-plugins/bmp-libvisual media-plugins/bmp-lirc media-plugins/bmp-midi media-plugins/bmp-mp4 media-plugins/bmp-musepack media-plugins/bmp-rootvis media-plugins/bmp-scrobbler media-plugins/bmp-songchange media-plugins/bmp-wma media-plugins/dumb-bmp media-plugins/modplugbmp x11-themes/bmp-themes --- regards, Pavel Kraynyukhov.
This project is abandoned since august 2005. Unless a developer steps up to maintain it, it will go. The replacement was forked from the beep-media-player code, and as such 0.1.2 should be very, very close to home for you. Please be more specific as to why this is 'unacceptable', have you tried the replacement yourself?
>This project is abandoned since august 2005. This is a not reason to remove a working software from portage. >Please be more specific as to why this is 'unacceptable', have you tried the replacement yourself? Why should i switch from on nice and working application to another one ? Beep Media player makes no hurm if it persists in portage, however remove good software from portage can't be acceptable. Leave this application alone please, there are many people use it. Isn't it better to have a choice between 2 applications, then only new one and who-knows-how-stable ? Leave us a choise !
You have not answered my question. Note that unmaintained software is removed from the tree all the time. The beep media player developers have pursued a new project, BMPx. It is in portage. If audacious is not an acceptable replacement to you, feel free to see if BMPx meets your needs.
(In reply to comment #2) > >This project is abandoned since august 2005. > This is a not reason to remove a working software from portage. > >Please be more specific as to why this is 'unacceptable', have you tried the > replacement yourself? Why should i switch from on nice and working application > to another one ? > Beep Media player makes no hurm if it persists in portage, however remove good > software from portage can't be acceptable. I agree, BMP is good software, but there's no point in maintaining it when there have been major fixes done in the Audacious tree. When I started the project, it was intended to be an alternative solution to BMPx. It has fulfilled this rather nicely. > > Leave this application alone please, there are many people use it. Isn't it > better to have a choice between 2 applications, then only new one and > who-knows-how-stable ? Have you even used Audacious? It's much less buggy than BMP classic is, supports more formats and still has the GNOME integration you know and love. I believe your motivation with this bug is more of a political one than one of any technical view. As I see it, a forced upgrade path is happening in gentoo for the following reasons: * It supports more architectures. * It supports more formats. * We are mindful of security (agressive source auditing, etcetera). * We merge vendor patches into our trunk if they are of merit. Therefore it's easier for Gentoo to help you by supporting Audacious than it was with classical BMP (the maintainer had communications breakdown with the BMP team, if I recall). > > Leave us a choise ! > You have a choice. It's called BMPx. That's what the BMP developers want you to use now. Audacious is for the rest of us who must simply humbly disagree with that decision.
You simply have no reason to remove this software. It works, brakes no dependencies, makes my system such as i like to have it. The answer on your questins is simple - new projects means new features and new bugs and instability. Let the user choose favorite application. May be new software is good and even better, but old software works for me. I need stability and choice, as many other Gentoo users. Removal of this software from portage tree would cause a losts of control on installed software on my system, because i will then need to install the software manually.
Bug reporter does not answer questions and has not tried the replacement software before calling it unacceptable.
(In reply to comment #5) > You simply have no reason to remove this software. > It works, brakes no dependencies, makes my system such as i like to have it. > The answer on your questins is simple - new projects means new features and new > bugs and instability. What a load of FUD. We do extensive testing on the player before release. The amount of open bugs on the tracker are ~110, and 99% of those have to do with BMP classic, dating all the way to 0.9.6! > Let the user choose favorite application. > May be new software is good and even better, but old software works for me. I > need stability and choice, as many other Gentoo users. Choice is good! That's why there are portage overlays. Yes, you keep saying that Audacious is unstable... please explain your reasoning behind this... as I've said, Audacious is actually more stable and more reliable than it's parent. Clarification needed. > > Removal of this software from portage tree would cause a losts of control on > installed software on my system, because i will then need to install the > software manually. > Again, have you heard of a portage overlay?
>Bug reporter does not answer questions and has not tried the replacement >software before calling it unacceptable. Have you read my comments ? I do not call inaceptable the software that you propose. I said that the changes you personally do in package.mask breaks my applications tree ! So please let the beep-media-player persist in the portage tree until it will NECASSARY to remove. I really won't change to another software, and i do not want my favorite mp3 player to be removed from portage. is it not enough reasonable ?
bugzilla is not the proper forum for this read the gentoo-dev mailing list: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/36076 if you care so much for the package, step up and maintain it
(In reply to comment #8) > >Bug reporter does not answer questions and has not tried the replacement > >software before calling it unacceptable. > > Have you read my comments ? I do not call inaceptable the software that you > propose. I have read your comments. I can't help feeling that you only very selectively read mine. > So please let the beep-media-player persist in the portage > tree until it will NECASSARY to remove. It is necessary to remove unmaintained software. A large amount of patches would otherwise accumulate in the portage tree that we can not push back to the upstream developers, because they have discontinued this softare. > I really won't change to another software, and i do not want my favorite mp3 > player to be removed from portage. is it not enough reasonable ? The software has already been discontinued by it's developers, this is downstream following up on upstream discontinuing a software package. As sent to you by e-mail, and just indicated by another developer, bugzilla is for logging bugs, not for voicing disagreements.
