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Bug 4834

Summary: Remove dhcpd and netkit-telnetd from base system
Product: Gentoo Linux Reporter: Sascha Silbe <sascha-gentoo-bugzilla>
Component: [OLD] Core systemAssignee: Martin Schlemmer (RETIRED) <azarah>
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE    
Severity: trivial CC: mguertin, vapier
Priority: High    
Version: unspecified   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
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Runtime testing required: ---

Description Sascha Silbe 2002-07-10 18:10:46 UTC
Please remove dhcpd and telnetd from the base system (/etc/make.profile/packages). They are not needed on most systems and certainly are never required for the operation of the base system.
It's OK that they are available (though telnetd should be strongly deprecated because it is highly insecure), but please don't force them on all users.
Yes, I know that I can just tweak /etc/make.profile/packages myself. But either it gets overwritten on every "emerge sync" or I have to keep it up to date manually.
Comment 1 Seemant Kulleen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2002-07-10 21:46:16 UTC
is reiserfsprogs really necessary for the base system?  there are those who run
systems without reiserfs at all, afaik.
Comment 2 Sascha Silbe 2002-07-11 03:06:56 UTC
reiserfsprogs is at least needed during installation for those that do use reiserfs. But it might be a good idea to create an own package list for the installer and move those packages from the base system to the installer.
Dhcpd and telnetd are never used by the installer, so they should neither show up in the base system nor in the installer.
Comment 3 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2002-07-11 11:55:45 UTC
half of this is a dup of bug 4650 (the telnetd part)

perhaps a new bug should be opened entitled 'Gentoo Core needs to be cut of 
fat' ?
Comment 4 Grant Goodyear (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2002-07-11 12:50:37 UTC
Telnetd also installs the telnet application, which I believe most
sysadmins use regularly.  I certainly do, even though I haven't run
the telnet daemon in years.  I would only mildly object to telnet not being
in the base system, since "emerge -s telnet" will return 
net-misc/netkit-telnetd (confusing the heck out of people who don't
know that the netkit-telnetd package also contains the telnet client, 
although the Description reads: "Standard Linux telnet client").

Also "dhcpd" is _not_ in the default system (or, in fact, even a package,
for that matter).  In the default system profile you will find "dhcpcd",
which is the dhcp client daemon.  I think this package makes sense
for a lot of users.
Comment 5 Grant Goodyear (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2002-07-11 12:56:59 UTC
We're not going to remove dhcpcd from the base system.  I'm marking this
bug a duplicate of 4650.  It would be fine with me if somebody opened 
a new "what packages really need to be *'d in the default packages file?"
and marked 4650 as depending on it.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 4650 ***