Summary: | lists drop mails from non-subscribed users | ||
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Product: | Gentoo Infrastructure | Reporter: | George Shapovalov (RETIRED) <george> |
Component: | Mailing Lists | Assignee: | Gentoo Infrastructure <infra-bugs> |
Status: | RESOLVED INVALID | ||
Severity: | normal | ||
Priority: | High | ||
Version: | unspecified | ||
Hardware: | All | ||
OS: | Linux | ||
Whiteboard: | |||
Package list: | Runtime testing required: | --- |
Description
George Shapovalov (RETIRED)
2010-12-06 18:45:25 UTC
please give me: 1. your gmail account name 2. the message-id for the mail that didn't arrive 3. What UTC time did you send the email? > 1. your gmail account name gshapovalov > 2. the message-id for the mail that didn't arrive201012060958.00019.george@gentoo.org > 3. What UTC time did you send the email? Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:57:59 +0100 your envelope MAIL FROM is wrong, and your mail was dropped for that reason. Your mail should have both the envelope and From: header matching your subscription address. Alternatively, add the OTHER address to the nomail subscriptions. We do want to deny the mails at the SMTP level in future. (In reply to comment #3) > your envelope MAIL FROM is wrong, and your mail was dropped for that reason. Could you please forward the received mail to me please, so that I could see what you are talking about? Here in sent-mail (the outmost of the message I can see) there is no MAIL FROM header, only FROM and that is <george@gentoo.org>. As I said, I suspect that google edits/adds headers to point all the traffic they can get hands on their way. Do you have any comments on that (i.e., should I try to avoid them in general)? And, finally, how should I resolve this? Is it Ok to use gentoo infrastructure for sending related mail nowadays? It was discouraged when I was initially setting it up (like 8 years ago), but I think I saw some messages recently (~1 year ago :)) that it is Ok now? Here's the mail log data. from= is where Postfix logs the MAIL FROM envelope. Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/smtpd[10084]: 4AC5BE05B9: client=mail-ww0-f53.google.com[74.125.82.53] Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/cleanup[9000]: 4AC5BE05B9: message-id=<201012060958.00019.george@gentoo.org> Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/qmgr[17235]: 4AC5BE05B9: from=<gshapovalov@gmail.com>, size=3892, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/qmgr[17235]: 4AC5BE05B9: removed Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/local[9769]: 4AC5BE05B9: to=<gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org>, relay=local, delay=0.47, delays=0.46/0/0/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/bin/mlmmj-recieve -L /var/lists/gentoo-science/) "MAIL FROM" is in the envelope, NOT any of the headers. Other developers manage to use Gmail fine to send mail... It's been perfectly fine and has been explicitly documented as allowed for about 18 months: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/dev-email.xml |