| Summary: | is ferdy rude enough? | ||
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| Product: | Community Relations | Reporter: | Linux Blues <linuxblues> |
| Component: | Developer Relations | Assignee: | Gentoo Community Relations Team <comrel> |
| Status: | VERIFIED INVALID | ||
| Severity: | normal | CC: | ferdy, pacho, sgtphou, stolz, tomk |
| Priority: | High | ||
| Version: | unspecified | ||
| Hardware: | All | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Whiteboard: | |||
| Package list: | Runtime testing required: | --- | |
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Description
Linux Blues
2006-12-15 10:46:38 UTC
(In reply to comment #0) > I was > wrong and I tried to "fight" with his attitude, but he is rude enough and has > the power to tell forum administrators, as a developer, to cancel my account. > And they've done it. To clear things up a bit, ferdy alone has not the power to get someone banned. Your behaviour was reported to us by Stolz as not perfect, you were warned about it, but did not listen. As a consequence your account was banned, but not based on Stolz' request alone, but also after review by one of our admins (tomk if i'm not mistaken - not 100% sure, could you confirm that once you're back?), who speaks spanish. As for your second and third account, they were banned instantly after discovery by ferdy, but simply because evading a ban is a reason for a ban itself. (In reply to comment #1) I don't care about your answer, Gentoo shows by itself what it should show: sucks. Thanks for nothing at all, or for sucking the dick of Ferdy... Enjoy it!!! btw if you're stupid enough to don't understabd a bug of this kind... better get another things to do, to improve Gentoo... Imb btw if you're stupid enough to don't understabd a bug of this kind... better get another things to do, to improve Gentoo... Imbécil. (In reply to comment #2) > (In reply to comment #1) > I don't care about your answer, Gentoo shows by itself what it should show: > sucks. Thanks for nothing at all, or for sucking the dick of Ferdy... > > Enjoy it!!! > (In reply to comment #3) > btw if you're stupid enough to don't understabd a bug of this kind... better > get another things to do, to improve Gentoo... Imb (In reply to comment #2) > (In reply to comment #1) > I don't care about your answer, Gentoo shows by itself what it should show: > sucks. Thanks for nothing at all, or for sucking the dick of Ferdy... > > Enjoy it!!! > (In reply to comment #3) > btw if you're stupid enough to don't understabd a bug of this kind... better > get another things to do, to improve Gentoo... Imbécil. Quit honestly if this is the way you behave on forums I can only support the forums admins decision to ban you. I've also been told (and shown) that you've created new accounts to circumvent your ban. That's completely unacceptable. So if you want to solve this conflict you have to: - Stop circumventing bans - Stop calling other imbecils etc. I'm going to give you a chance to show that you can behave yourself while I look at your complaint but any more abusive behaviour and name calling will get you a ban on bugzilla too. Hi LinuxBlues! I think that you were banned because insult other forums gentoo members is not allowed in the forums. I am going to refresh your memory: 1. In the following post, linuxblues menace psm1984 user to take legal actions against him because of a assumed licence problem. LinuxBlues says that he is going to call his lawyer against psm1984. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3768249.html#3768249 2. In the following post, linuxblues says that pacho2 (me) is talking about something that doesn't know (absolutelly FALSE, I have tested gnome 2.16 trunk since 2.15.92 version). http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755077.html#3755077 3. When other user (Zamorate) says that linuxblues only tries to make a mess in forums, linuxblues says: "Porque no me da la real gana, Hi LinuxBlues! I think that you were banned because insult other forums gentoo members is not allowed in the forums. I am going to refresh your memory: 1. In the following post, linuxblues menace psm1984 user to take legal actions against him because of a assumed licence problem. LinuxBlues says that he is going to call his lawyer against psm1984. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3768249.html#3768249 2. In the following post, linuxblues says that pacho2 (me) is talking about something that doesn't know (absolutelly FALSE, I have tested gnome 2.16 trunk since 2.15.92 version). http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755077.html#3755077 3. When other user (Zamorate) says that linuxblues only tries to make a mess in forums, linuxblues says: "Porque no me da la real gana, ésta es mi versión del Libro de Reclamaciones y hago uso del mismo teniendo en cuenta todo el tiempo que Gentoo me ha hecho perder... ¿Vale?" Then, is clear that linuxblues provokes theses arguments premeditately. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755354.html#3755354 4. Linuxblues says that his posts have more "quality" than ferdy ones, seems that he thinks that forums.gentoo.org is a competition: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755366.html#3755366 5. ferdy is a paludis developer, and linuxblues tries to provoke him saying that nobody with is sane (is not crazy) would use paludis: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755386.html#3755386 6. LinuxBlues seems to think that he is a fortuneteller, and tell ferdy that he will suffer a lot for taking a job: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755280.html#3755280 7. LinuxBlues thinks that he is "God" beacuse he has his own home, and he insult ferdy saying: "You are a parasite for your parents" http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755347.html#3755347 8. He insinues that gentoo users are masochistic, and recommends to swicth to archLinux: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3754310.html#3754310 9. He tries again to critize gentoo: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3754964.html#3754964 10. LinuxBlues seems to think that ferdy is the maintainer of all packages and he MUST fix all bugs: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755254.html#3755254 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755267.html#3755267 11. In the following post, linuxblues tells ferdy "autist" and also says that he have to "overcome his mental limitations" and he must "leave the develop of ebuilds and shits like them": http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755303.html#3755303 12. In the following post, linuxblues says that ferdy should go to a psychiatrist: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755332.html#3755332 13. In the following post, linuxblues menace ferdy insinuating that he could met with ferdy some day...: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3754007.html#3754007 14. In this post, linuxblues says that artic (other gentoo forums member) post is absolutely useless: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3719392.html#3719392 Also, seems to try to frighten new gentoo users telling them about bugs that he says that they could suffer, but that they have already fixed. 15. Here, linuxblues recommends again to switch to archlinux for "fix" a problem: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3697147.html#3697147 16. Here, linuxblues tells ezq (other forums member) "clown", also, he writes "payaso" (payaso = clown) with a bis spelling mistake, writing "pallaso" instead of "payaso" ;-) http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3717510.html#3717510 17. Here, linuxblues is very rude with joaquin24 forum member: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3566943.html#3566943 18. Here, linuxblues tells me that I should re-read gentoo documentation because "I don't know nothing about I am talking": http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3445692.html#3445692 19. This is a post dedicated to critize gentoo: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-474681-highlight-.html 20. Here, he is very proud because he has saved a screenshot where he is executing "rm -rf /" command for removing his gentoo system. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3408259.html#3408259 21. Here, linuxblues recommends frangor "A Confederacy of Dunces" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Confederacy_of_Dunces) xDDDD http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3408497.html#3408497 22. Here, he is proud because he can find his name when he runs: wget http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/doc/es/?root=gentoo grep -ri -l "LinuxBlues" * http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3410596.html#3410596 23. Here, linuxblues says that portage developers are unable (incapable) to use other language than python, saying also that python is for "retardeds": http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3408393.html#3408393 24. Here, linuxblues insult ferdy, again: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3394832.html#3394832 25. Here, linuxblues try to "help" again recommending people to use other distributions, for example: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3768309.html#3768309 26. And, it is the linuxblues intervention when, yesterday, he enter #gentoo-forums IRC channel for trying to get his forums account opened again: (14:33:22) LinuxBlues [n=desktop@unaffiliated/linuxblues] ha entrado en la sala. (14:35:25) LinuxBlues: why am I banned? Freedom of expression has any meaning for you? (14:36:08) nixnut: we've heard of the concept (14:36:24) ferdy: have you ?! hah: P (14:36:29) nixnut: you have the freedom to express yourself on your own hardware (14:36:39) nixnut: on our hardware you live by our rules (14:36:52) LinuxBlues: dictators (14:37:14) beu: :o LinuxBlues lissi (14:38:05) pacho: LinuxBlues: You are similar to Pedro J Ramirez, insult isn't freedom to express xD (14:38:33) LinuxBlues: hi again, beu, don't care... plz (14:38:52) LinuxBlues: omg, pacho2 (14:38:57) pacho: I don't understand, my english is poor :-( (14:39:00) LinuxBlues ha salido de la sala ("..."). (14:39:08) beu: linuxblues: eh? (14:39:12) pacho: xD (14:39:14) beu: or not... (14:39:45) pacho: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3755347.html#3755347 -> Example of "freedom to express" (14:39:47) lissi: pacho2: Dustbin - Flame (14:39:56) beu: muppets-- (14:40:18) nixnut: if you are banned you're not suposed to create another account, you'll just get banned again. no discussion (14:40:29) beu: you thin that'd be clear. ;) (14:40:35) nixnut: heh (14:41:20) ferdy: yes... he somehow thinks that freedom of expression means personally threatening and insulting me (14:41:20) beu: i am left wondering why i have 'linuxblues' on highlight, tho... (14:41:26) ferdy: heh (14:41:27) nixnut: haha (14:42:26) kopp: damn, it's in spanish (14:42:32) ferdy: yep (14:42:39) beu: probably a good thing. ;) I think that this is the linuxblues look in "real" life: http://forums.gentoo.org/images/avatars/12852066894566bd15f3b57.png http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-474061.html#3404571 Here Ferdy explains by himself he's unable to sound (maybe be) polite. Just /join #gentoo-es and ask him a simple, trivial question... You'll see. pacho, if you're unable to understand "meterse donde a uno no le llaman", "no tenemos nada de que hablar". Translation: pacho, plz, don't get into my matters again, you're behaving like me ;-) (In reply to comment #6) > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-474061.html#3404571 > > > Here Ferdy explains by himself he's unable to sound (maybe be) polite. Just > /join #gentoo-es and ask him a simple, trivial question... You'll see. > > pacho, if you're unable to understand "meterse donde a uno no le llaman", "no > tenemos nada de que hablar". > > Translation: pacho, plz, don't get into my matters again, you're behaving like > me ;-) > You always have to say the last word xD (In reply to comment #7) > You always have to say the last word xD me? are you really sure? (you are going to reply and add the last word, I'm sure) LOL i'd say just punt him and be done with it First, when we were friends, he created an account for me at gentoo-es.org, now, as I requested it, he deleted my account, and now, as he noticed I haven't modified my account, he has created a new account to read my messages, isn't it enough? Here we go... http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazocorreoenviadons1.png http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazocorreoenviadolu2.png "cerdy" means his behaviour btw, cerdy (aka ferdy) is the admin of gentoo-es.org. gentoo-es.org is not an official Gentoo site so ferdy is free to ban you all he likes there ... we could care less Just for the record, we've never been friends, you just helped testing the gentoo-es.org site and you were given an email alias. That alias is now /dev/null'd. I really don't care about you and your email. - ferdy Yaaawn... Can we close this stupid bug before Christmas Day? Thanks. From what I've been able to gather from lots of different people ferdy haven't done anything wrong. LinuxBlues on the other hand have shown himself to make rude and uncalled for remarks against ferdy and other people. As LinuxBlues is a user and not a developer I think the right solution is already taken by banning him from forums. Closing bug. (In reply to comment #15) > From what I've been able to gather from lots of different people ferdy haven't > done anything wrong. Well, it depends, could you show us who and what have they said, please? There are posts in the forums confirming my point of view. There are people on irc channel #gentoo-es that queried me talking about his rudeness, I keep logs of all private messages, and I've asked they for permission to add their comments here on this bug, I'm waiting for their replies, if I won't get an answer I won't add any of the logs here. > As LinuxBlues is a user and not a developer I accept it to mark as invalid as I'm not a developer, but resolved? What's the way to go ahead and avoid his rudeness forever? User Reps? I won't reopen this bug unless I don't get any answer, I need to shut up a developer who is unable to be polite. (In reply to comment #16) > (In reply to comment #15) > > From what I've been able to gather from lots of different people ferdy haven't > > done anything wrong. > > Well, it depends, could you show us who and what have they said, please? > > There are posts in the forums confirming my point of view. There are people on > irc channel #gentoo-es that queried me talking about his rudeness, I keep logs > of all private messages, and I've asked they for permission to add their > comments here on this bug, I'm waiting for their replies, if I won't get an > answer I won't add any of the logs here. > > > As LinuxBlues is a user and not a developer > I accept it to mark as invalid as I'm not a developer, but resolved? > > What's the way to go ahead and avoid his rudeness forever? User Reps? > > I won't reopen this bug unless I don't get any answer, I need to shut up a > developer who is unable to be polite. > Several developers (both forums mods/admins and ebuild developers) have told me they don't think ferdy is being rude and that you've been trolling on forums. Personally I have never seen ferdy being rude or unhelpful to anybody (and I've known him for quite a while now) so I went to quite some trouble talking to lots of people to get a proper picture of this situation. As everybody confirmed your bad behaviour and even your behaviour on this bug was quite bad I closed the bug as invalid. As for "shutting up a developer", that simply won't happen. I suggest you clean up your own behaviour instead and remove the basis for getting into fights with developers and forums mods/admins. (In reply to comment #17) > As everybody > confirmed your bad behaviour and even your behaviour on this bug was quite bad > I closed the bug as invalid. You can't see it as a consequence. Dunno why... Well, you win, reopened till you'll make publicly available who has said it, and what have they said about him or maybe me, I don't care... Learn to see my rudeness as a a consecuence of his rudeness, please, I know I'm lost behaving like him, but... I'm being like him. Please, please, PLEASE, don't make me post queries from the irc channel without permission, it surely will be a pleasure to me, as all of them will demonstrate the reason for this bug and my behaviour. already explained in the last post It doesn't matter at all. My decision is mostly based on your bad behaviour in this bug. Keep reopening this silly bug and I'll disable your forums account as well. What I have right now is you saying ferdy is a bad boy and several people saying ferdy isn't a bad boy. As I don't understand spanish I can't decipher the logs unfortunately but I can damn well understand your bad behaviour in this bug and I'm not going to allow that. Capiche? Sorry, I need to say something here. My comment is aimed specifically at this "LinuxBlues": how in the world can you *possibly* justify degenerating your own behaviour based on that of another person? Let's forget the irony in following that up with you complaining about that other person. The reason we're closing this bug is your behaviour as the bug's filer. You have failed to demonstrate ferdy's rudeness, but have more than aptly demonstrated your own. And you do it continuously. Using ferdy as your excuse to behave badly simply reduces your already low credibility even further. If you intend to file complaints in the future, please ensure that your own behaviour is up to par. Thus far, it has been far below (and I'm honestly a little embarrassed for you). Everyone else, please forgive the bug-spam. Yes, I was angered and it doesn't explain my rudeness. Maybe too late, but LinuxBlues apologizes. I'm awfully sorry. At least, there's one (the only one) human being here who is able to recognize his rudeness... Cheers Cerdy. |
