Bug 115951 – No pulldown menus using blackdown Java

• Product: Gentoo Linux
• Status: VERIFIED CANTFIX

[Description Mark Knecht 2005-12-18 09:30:48 UTC]

At a specific, password protected site that we use, the web pages have some interactive charts for analyzing stocks. Part of the interactive chart is a set of pull down menus to choose different chart types. With blackdown-jre and/or blackdown-jdk this doesn't work. (I don't really know the difference except for runtime vs. development) We are browsing with Firefox compiled from source using emerge.

The pull down menus do work with the sun-jre-bin package, although they don't look like other platforms. They are just little square boxes and do not have the down arrow common to this sort of GUI item, but they do work. Blackdown does not.

We have tested this on both a P4HT machine and a 32-bit chroot'ed environment on an AMD64. It appears that the sun-jre-bin package does not support a 64-bit browser at this time because even with it installed Firefox in the 64-bit environment says the plugin is missing.

This emerge info is from the 32-bit chroot environment on the AMD64 machine:

lightning / # emerge info
Portage 2.0.51.22-r3 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.6, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.14-rt22 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.14-rt22 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13
dev-lang/python:     2.3.5, 2.4.2
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.12
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.20
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -msse2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -msse2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="x86 X alsa apm arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 crypt cups eds emboss encode expat fam foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib ipv6 jack java jpeg kde lcms libg++ libwww mad mikmod mng motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl png python qt quicktime readline sdl spell ssl tcpd tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev vorbis xine xml2 xmms xv zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc"
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

lightning / #

That environment currently has the sun-jre-bin package installed so that we can make this work:

lightning / # java-config -L
[sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06] "Sun JRE 1.5.0.06" (/etc/env.d/java/20sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06)
lightning / #

[Comment 1 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) 2005-12-18 09:42:28 UTC]

Sorry, but how on earth are we supposed to diagnose a problem without the actual code at hand and without any link to the particular site (which is additionally password-protected you say)?! Moreover, what leads you to the belief that this alleged Java problem is Gentoo-specific?

[Comment 2 Mark Knecht 2005-12-18 09:51:22 UTC]

Jakub - there is no way I can say it's Gentoo specific. I can tell you that it's happening on all Gentoo machines and I cannot give you access to the site. Sorry. What we need here is a bit better attitude form you and see if we cannot find a way to get it fixed instead of just blowing it off.

First, it works on Gentoo using sun-jre-bin and does not work using blackdown. It also works on Windows and the Mac platforms. That says Linux, overall, has a problem.

Is there no way I could capture some Java code and provide it to you to for someone to look at? I'm not a developer and don't know anything about this stuff. I am just trying to make the overall platform work better over time.

It probably makes no difference, but as a dedicated Gentoo user I really think your commitment to even trying to look at this is lacking. Let's find a way to make it work instead of just giving up.

I'm sorry if you're having a bad day or something. Give me some guidance and I'll try my best.

With best regrds.

[Comment 3 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) 2005-12-18 10:05:21 UTC]

Sorry, there's noone who could fix a problem described as "oh, there's a top-secret password-protected web page somewhere, which is using Java for some fancy charts and does not work with blackdown". 

Apparently, you're not even the author of that particular app, so there's no way you could provide the code needed to diagnose the issue. So - please, report the issues to the owner of that particular website, there's nothing Gentoo could do about this.

Closing.

[Comment 4 Mark Knecht 2005-12-18 11:01:14 UTC]

I'm sorry you feel this way. I'm not saying the problem is Gentoo based. I'm just saying there is a problem I want to try and help get it fixed. Clearly your coming from a place that says it's easier to ignore than do something about. I can understand that from your perspective. 

Since this works with sun Java but not with Blackdown I thought originally about getting in touch with them but I didn't figure out how to do that. I guess I'll go that direction.

I remind you that the history of Gentoo's Bugzilla setup was that the developers asked us to put bug reports here and not go upstream. You leave me no other option.

Thanks for your help, such as it was.