--- Log closed Fri Dec 16 17:32:08 2005 --- Log opened Fri Dec 16 17:32:36 2005 17:32 -!- ferringb [n=bharring@gentoo/developer/ferringb] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:32 -!- Irssi: #gentoo-dev: Total of 235 nicks [156 ops, 0 halfops, 25 voices, 54 normal] 17:32 -!- mode/#gentoo-dev [+o ferringb] by ChanServ 17:32 -!- Irssi: Join to #gentoo-dev was synced in 1 secs 17:33 -!- mcummings [n=mcumming@gentoo/developer/mcummings] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:33 -!- mode/#gentoo-dev [+o mcummings] by ChanServ 17:35 <@ciaranm> solar: and i'm sitting here thinking that you should stick being a code monkey and not get yourself in above your head 17:35 <@solar> oh well no fun. I guess he will just have to flame back ten fold while I'm not here. 17:35 <@solar> oh good your here 17:35 <@solar> hey do us all a favor and just die() 17:35 <@solar> you know thay nearly noboduy like you right? 17:35 <@solar> and that it's all of your own doing 17:36 <@ciaranm> you know that this isn't a popularity contest, right? 17:36 <@solar> so CHILL YOU LAME FUCK 17:36 -!- theklone [i=theklone@c210-49-191-245.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:36 <@solar> get it? 17:36 <@ciaranm> i'm not the one going around swearing incoherently on irc 17:37 <@solar> you misunderstand the words LAME FUCK? 17:37 <@ciaranm> if they're intended to mean something specific, then yes 17:38 <@solar> they mean your a dick. you a dick for no good reason. and if you give it some forethought please stop being a dick. 17:39 <@ciaranm> i'm a dick for a very good reason. there has to be someone around here who's prepared to point out when people are about to do something very very stupid that will generate a lot of mess 17:39 <@ferringb> heh 17:39 <@ferringb> ciaranm: yet we can't point out when you're being a damn tool? 17:39 * ferringb shrugs 17:39 -!- nerdboy|off is now known as nerdboy 17:40 -!- jrinkovs [n=jrinkovs@gentoo/developer/jrinkovs] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:40 -!- mode/#gentoo-dev [+o jrinkovs] by ChanServ 17:40 <@ciaranm> ferringb: if you're meaning repository names, then i'm not being a tool. i've just thought about it more than certain others... 17:40 <@ferringb> ciaranm: what you're accomplishing is driving everyone away from being willing to work with you. which you probably don't give a damn about, but the end result is your efforts ain't going to anywhere since most of it's bound to others. 17:40 <@ferringb> word games are pointless. 17:40 <@ferringb> you're a tool because you're intentionally an antisocial punk 17:40 <@jrinkovs> huh? 17:40 <@ciaranm> ferringb: no no, i get along just fine with the people with whom it is worth getting along 17:41 <@ferringb> ahh... 17:41 <@ferringb> so you're an elitist antisocial punk. 17:41 <@ferringb> much better. 17:41 <+antarus> ciaranm, this is the real world buddy, you don't get to pick and choose 17:41 -!- illuminata [n=illumina@c-67-177-80-233.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:41 <@ciaranm> antarus: sure i do. 17:42 <@solar> well you picked and chose wrong 17:42 <@solar> now you must suffer 17:42 <@ferringb> solar: wrong way of looking at it. 17:42 <@vapier> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6858182530930181660&q=japanese+tv 17:42 <@ferringb> he can choose, as can everyone else. 17:42 <@solar> not really 17:42 <@solar> I'd fed up with his shit 17:42 <@ferringb> ostracization is about all he's accomplishing. 17:42 <@solar> and he must go soonish 17:43 <@solar> get it kid? shape up 17:43 <@ciaranm> solar: and i'm sick of you running around screaming about whatever the random pseudosecurity issue of the week is and getting in the way of fixing real problems 17:43 -!- ontopic [n=pac1@user-0c2il1l.cable.earthlink.net] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:44 <@ciaranm> *proportionate* response 17:44 <@solar> so vs saying a god damn thing to me.. you choose to insilt 17:44 <@ferringb> deflection... 17:44 <@ferringb> whee. 17:44 * ferringb tips his hat, and wanders off to do something other then trade barbs 17:45 <@solar> ie.. you have nothing constructive to say. 17:45 <@solar> so.. I assert your useless and couter productive 17:45 <@ciaranm> sure i do. i have you a perfectly constructive replacement message, for example 17:45 <@solar> if you opted like an adult to report bugs correctly and act like an adult you might have a chance of people wanting to work with you 17:45 -!- jstubbs [n=jason@gentoo/developer/jstubbs] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:45 -!- mode/#gentoo-dev [+o jstubbs] by ChanServ 17:46 <@ciaranm> strange that most people work just fine with me, and the only ones that don't are the ones that have some pet silliness that they like to coddle rather than getting something useful done 17:46 <@solar> lies 17:46 <@solar> dude everydoy but weeve and geoman hate you 17:46 -!- rezza [n=rezza@sabus.omgwtfbbq.us] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:46 <@solar> why.. cuz you insult everybody. 17:47 <@ciaranm> sheesh, you've got even less of a grip on reality than i thought 17:47 <@solar> and you made me sorry that I stuck up for you the last time your ass was booted from the project 17:48 <@Ramereth> i swear ciaranm has an endless pot of insults :) 17:48 <@Ramereth> i want to see ciaranm go a whole week without insulting a single person 17:48 -!- PreZ [n=prez@pool-70-104-137-74.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:48 -!- mode/#gentoo-dev [+v PreZ] by ChanServ 17:48 <@ciaranm> Ramereth: give me a whole week with no stupidity and you'll see it 17:48 <@Ramereth> ciaranm: that's not a reason for insulting 17:49 <@Ramereth> not justification 17:49 <@Ramereth> *nor 17:49 <@ciaranm> Ramereth: no, i just save that for when the reasonable approach fails 17:49 -!- PreZ [n=prez@pool-70-104-137-74.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:49 <@Ramereth> if you can't deal with stupidity in a civilized manner, please leave 17:49 <@ciaranm> i'm not the one running around swearing at people on irc here 17:49 <@solar> reasonable? you never even attempted that. ;/ 17:50 <@Ramereth> i'm not talking about anyone else here, only you 17:50 <@latexer> cue conspiracy theory. 17:50 <@Halcy0n> And I wonder what it is anyone is expecting to accomplish here? 17:50 <@ciaranm> Halcy0n: solar wants to be free to rid the world of TEXTRELs 17:50 <@Halcy0n> All I see is someone instigating a situation, and not really accomplishing anything. 17:50 <@rl03> any PHP folks around here? 17:50 <@latexer> Halcy0n: blow off some steam? 17:51 <@Halcy0n> latexer: yea, we have mailing lists and /query's for that. 17:51 <@latexer> Halcy0n: maybe there's a lot of steam? 17:51 <@jforman> latexer: !!!! 17:51 <@Halcy0n> latexer: then they should go drink a beer and chill. 17:51 <@latexer> jforman: !!!!! 17:51 <@latexer> Halcy0n: that's my approach too, but i guess not all folks function that way. 17:51 <@tgall_foo> so what's up with this glibc bug ? 17:52 <@solar> call for a show of hands right here and right now and I'm almost sure than the majority wont say your really helping the overall project. in general when you piss people off they wont want to work with you. Like it or not the rest of us are here and if you want to be apart of the team you are just going to have to deal with it. When you have something useful to say just say _that_ part. 17:52 <@jforman> latexer: how goes the left coast 17:52 <@Halcy0n> I like Ciaran just the way he is. 17:52 <@ferringb> Halcy0n: give it time. 17:52 * tgall_foo starts to hand out "chill pills" 17:52 <@solar> he's new still 17:52 <@latexer> jforman: not too bad. work is work. 17:53 <@ferringb> it's daft to assume insulting random folk is sane for a foss project. 17:53 <@ferringb> it's a good way to ensure you lone wolf dev a project... sucks for anything collaborative however. 17:53 <@Halcy0n> Actually. I talk to him all of the time, so I don't think I need to give it more time at all. 17:53 <@Ramereth> Halcy0n: would you work with someone in person like ciaranm and enjoy it? 17:53 <@ferringb> Ramereth: the question is whether he's ever been on the receiving end. 17:53 <@Ramereth> in a professional manner i mean 17:54 <@Halcy0n> Ramereth: I don't like a bunch of people on the project, but you don't see me cursing them off in this channel. I ignore them. 17:54 <@Ramereth> do you see me cursing? 17:54 <@Halcy0n> Everyone needs to chill out and if you have a problem, go through devrel. 17:54 <@Halcy0n> That was not directed at you. 17:54 <@solar> no. 17:54 <@Battousai> Halcy0n: hahaha 17:54 <@Battousai> you've never gone through devrel have you? 17:54 <@vapier> Halcy0n: you're a tool 17:54 -!- latexer [n=peter@gentoo/developer/latexer] has left #gentoo-dev ["yet another waste of time in #-dev. i'll be back later."] 17:54 <@Halcy0n> vapier: I <3 you too. 17:54 -!- rezza [n=rezza@sabus.omgwtfbbq.us] has left #gentoo-dev [] 17:55 <@Ramereth> Halcy0n: history has proven that route won't work 17:55 <@solar> if you have a problem you confront the person you have a problem with first. if that does not work then you may go to devrel when you sure there is a problem and it's unfixable 17:55 <@Battousai> i dont mean to instigate, but devrel is ineffective with such situations 17:55 <@solar> in this case fsck devrel... 17:55 <@Halcy0n> solar: I don't think you are doing a good job of trying to fix the situation. 17:55 <@solar> sorry but it's not needed yet. 17:55 <@ferringb> devrel deals with the blow ups. 17:55 <@Halcy0n> But whatever, I'm done with this conversation. 17:55 <@ferringb> ciaran toes the line in case you haven't caught on. 17:55 <@solar> Halcy0n: I'm not trying to fix anything right now. I'm venting over the actions of another dev. 17:55 <@ferringb> only reason he got smacked last time was because he screwed up and went a bit further then norm. 17:55 -!- tsunam [n=tsunam@24.182.19.146] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:56 <@solar> via talking directly to the dev in question and making others aware of what I think 17:57 <@solar> ciaranm: so this is a request. just be cool please. 17:57 <@ciaranm> solar: i'm perfectly cool. i'm not the one going around exploding... 17:58 <@solar> enough with the careful wording. just be cool ok 17:58 <@Ramereth> ciaranm: if you're so cool, then don't insult a single person for a week. 17:58 <@solar> it's not that hard is it? 17:58 <@Ramereth> i charge that to you as a challenge 17:58 <@ciaranm> Ramereth: pff, i only retaliate 17:58 <@solar> ok then your useless 17:58 -!- JoseJX [n=jjezak@josejx.berkshire.net] has joined #gentoo-dev 17:58 -!- mode/#gentoo-dev [+o JoseJX] by ChanServ 17:58 <@ciaranm> my useless what? 17:59 <@solar> all of you 17:59 <@Ramereth> ciaranm: so you can't take my challenge? Feel unable to? 17:59 <@solar> go away please 17:59 <@tgall_foo> Ramereth, that's a rather silly challenge 17:59 <@solar> we can find another maintain for your $EDITOR 17:59 <@Ramereth> its a simple challenge 17:59 <@ciaranm> Ramereth: i challenge you to go a whole week without saying the word "I" 17:59 <@ferringb> tgall_foo: true. but what's *really* silly is that it has even gotten to that point. 17:59 <@solar> like thats something that matters so much anything 17:59 <@tgall_foo> ferringb, yup .. I'm with ya there ... 17:59 <@ferringb> ...and now for something even more silly. 17:59 <@tgall_foo> mom needs to step in and send everyone to their rooms 18:00 <@solar> he wants to see how far he can rage me. 18:00 -!- PreZ [n=prez@pool-70-104-137-74.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #gentoo-dev 18:00 -!- mode/#gentoo-dev [+v PreZ] by ChanServ 18:00 <@solar> which wont be hard. I'm pretty easy to piss off 18:00 <@solar> so go please. Lets dig our graves together 18:00 <@ciaranm> solar: no no. i don't care whether or not you want to go off and throw a hissy fit. that's your business, not mine. i just want to get stuff done 18:00 <@ferringb> ciaranm: go get something done then. 18:00 <@ferringb> propose yet another glep. 18:00 <@solar> again with your careful wording 18:00 <@ferringb> do something rather then insult/insinuate/needle 18:00 <@solar> why do you sit here and bold face fucking lie? 18:01 -!- Rushmoom [n=me@80-218-113-132.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 18:01 <@tgall_foo> so speaking of getting work done, what's the deal with the glibc bug in portage ? 18:01 <@ciaranm> ferringb: am doing. right now i'm sitting here waiting to see if i really fixed a parallel make bug or not 18:01 * tgall_foo puts on the "mom" voice ... "solar, go to your room " 18:01 <@solar> if you wanted to get stuff done you would attempt to make an attempt at your social progress skills 18:01 <@solar> ie interacting with others.