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irc.txt (text/plain), 14.51 KB, created by Rafal Kupiec on 2011-05-01 21:40:24 UTC

[20:58:35] <Belliash> is it a right place to ask for help about more technicial
issue?
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[21:00:02] <sreich> are they kde related?
[21:00:16] <Belliash> yeah - it does not start up
[21:00:25] <Belliash> and noone got idea what might be wrong
[21:00:31] <pinotree> â #kde
[21:02:18] <Belliash> it seems to be common problem, i have found already few th
read over the net from different distributions
[21:02:25] <Belliash> but no solution found so far
[21:02:51] <Belliash> even threads on official kde forum are not helping
[21:03:00] <PovAddict> your problem statement is not helping either
[21:03:08] <PovAddict> "it doesn't start up" doesn't say much
[21:03:23] <PovAddict> either way the right place for that question is #kde
[21:03:36] <Belliash> well i got this when starting from kdm:
[21:03:37] <Belliash> klauncher(2434) kdemain: no Dbus session-bus found. Check
if you have started the DBUS server.
[21:03:37] <Belliash> kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
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[21:03:54] <thiago_home> have you tried what it recommends?
[21:03:59] <Belliash> and something similiar when starting via startx
[21:04:03] <Belliash> of course
[21:04:11] <thiago_home> and is the D-Bus session daemon running?
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[21:04:17] <Belliash> dbus starts with system, als otried restarting it
[21:04:23] <Belliash> status shows its running
[21:04:24] <thiago_home> not the system bus
[21:04:27] <thiago_home> is the *session* bus running?
[21:04:29] <Belliash> ps ax shows it running
[21:04:39] <thiago_home> does it have --system in the command-line?
[21:05:13] <Belliash> yes, from what i remember
[21:05:19] <thiago_home> then it's the wrong bus
[21:05:22] <thiago_home> is the session bus running?
[21:05:28] <thiago_home> how do you start it?
[21:05:33] <Belliash> how can i check that?
[21:05:50] <thiago_home> check your X initialisation scripts
[21:05:56] <thiago_home> find one that starts the session bus daemon
[21:06:05] <Belliash> i have added dbus to runlevel
[21:06:11] <thiago_home> wrong
[21:06:18] <thiago_home> the X initialisation scripts. Find it.
[21:06:24] <PovAddict> runlevels are all about system-wide stuff
[21:06:33] <thiago_home> which distribution is that?
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[21:07:10] <Belliash> but, when its already starting, it shows splash, icons ani
mation and stucks... when i restart dbus daemon then kde starts and i can use it
, but shows many errors like powerdevil couldnt start
[21:07:15] <Belliash> its Gentoo
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[21:07:27] <thiago_home> is dbus compiled with X11 support?
[21:07:34] <Belliash> yes
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[21:07:40] <Belliash> ihave dbus USE flag enabled globally
[21:07:49] <thiago_home> ldd dbus-launch. Is it linked to libX11?
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[21:08:27] <Belliash> let me check... ill boot into it and thanks in advance for
 help
[21:08:28] <Belliash> brb
[21:10:28] <Belliash> im back
[21:11:13] <Belliash> yes its linked to that library
[21:11:30] <thiago_home> have you found the script that starts the session bus?
[21:11:39] <thiago_home> it's run by running dbus-launch
[21:12:31] <thiago_home> can you get me a ps axf of when the launch gets stuck?
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[21:12:56] <Belliash> yeah, sure
[21:13:22] <thiago_home> and the contents of .xsession-errors
[21:14:20] <Belliash> http://wklej.org/id/522046/
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[21:14:58] <Belliash> http://wklej.org/id/522049/
[21:15:00] <thiago_home> ok, session daemon is running
[21:15:43] <Belliash> in that file i also see errors regarding dbus
[21:15:55] <thiago_home> yes, it starts very early on
[21:16:03] <PovAddict> thiago_home: are those "No such signal" errors normal? :/
[21:16:23] <thiago_home> no
[21:16:40] <thiago_home> but kded failed to start
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[21:17:06] <thiago_home> NoReply to everything
[21:17:10] <thiago_home> sounds like a UID mismatch
[21:17:19] <thiago_home> can you get a ps auxf?
[21:17:21] <Belliash> just heard sound from kde
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[21:17:32] <Belliash> switched to XOrg and seen black screen with mouse
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[21:17:39] <Belliash> and policykit - kde crash windows
[21:18:12] <Belliash> http://wklej.org/id/522052/
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[21:18:57] <PovAddict> weird... system bus is running on user '101'... no user n
ame?
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[21:20:05] <thiago_home> but the daemon is running under the right user
[21:20:20] <PovAddict> the session one? yeah
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[21:21:05] <thiago_home> but there's something wrong with D-Bus still
[21:21:34] <thiago_home> can you start a failsafe session with just an xterm?
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[21:22:24] <Belliash> from kdm?
[21:23:01] <Belliash> hmm switched to X11 and kde is running, but ittook so long
 to startup
[21:23:07] <Belliash> will try with failsafe
[21:23:53] <Belliash> with failsafe it returns back to kdm
[21:24:09] <Belliash> i think i might be missing xterm and/or twm...
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[21:26:23] <thiago_home> xterm I gues
[21:26:29] <thiago_home> failsafe should start without a WM
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[21:27:07] <Belliash> im emerging xterm then
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[21:28:20] <Belliash> yeah
[21:28:27] <Belliash> xterm started just fine
[21:32:30] <Belliash> do you have any idea?
[21:33:14] <thiago_home> echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
[21:33:17] <thiago_home> empty or a value?
[21:33:27] <Belliash> from root or test user?
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[21:33:34] <thiago_home> from inside that xterm
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[21:34:31] <Belliash> http://wklej.org/id/522063/
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[21:34:47] <thiago_home> just answer "empty" or "not empty"
[21:34:53] <Belliash> not empty
[21:34:56] <thiago_home> ok
[21:34:58] <thiago_home> run qdbus
[21:35:24] <thiago_home> is the answer: a) a dump of some sorts; b) an immediate
 NoReply or c) a NoReply after 25 seconds?
[21:35:28] <thiago_home> or something else
[21:36:16] <Belliash> its :1.0 org.freedesktop.DBus
[21:36:26] <thiago_home> ok, it's running normally then
[21:36:40] <thiago_home> run kded
[21:36:42] <thiago_home> any errors?
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[21:36:59] <Belliash> hmmm
[21:37:02] <Belliash> command not found ;)
[21:37:07] <thiago_home> kded4
[21:37:08] <PovAddict> maybe kded4
[21:37:58] <Belliash> Connecting to deprecated signal (some string here) and kde
d already running
[21:38:30] <thiago_home> qdbus again
[21:38:34] <thiago_home> do you see kded there?
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[21:38:46] * PovAddict is almost expecting something bizarre to happen, like htt
p://bash.org/?847733 [profanity warning]
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[21:39:44] <Belliash> have not managed to run qdbus since kded4 showed error
[21:39:52] <Belliash> i will write it here in a while
[21:40:12] <Belliash> "Communication failed with kded, probably crashed"
[21:40:19] <thiago_home> ^Z
[21:40:21] <thiago_home> bg
[21:41:15] <Belliash> no such job
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[21:41:42] <thiago_home> run qdbus now
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[21:41:44] <PovAddict> are you back on the shell prompt? can you run qdbus now?
[21:42:05] <Belliash> 3 positions...
[21:42:12] <thiago_home> including kded?
[21:42:23] <Belliash> kded, klauncher & dbus
[21:42:26] <thiago_home> ok
[21:42:32] <thiago_home> so it looks like it's working
[21:42:40] <Belliash> but its not :P
[21:42:43] <thiago_home> can you start kwrite? Does it come up quickly?
[21:43:05] <Belliash> yes
[21:43:12] <Belliash> came pretty quickly
[21:44:18] <thiago_home> ok, then it's working perfectly
[21:45:23] <Belliash> hmm...
[21:45:34] <Belliash> so why isnt whole kde running so smooth?
[21:45:40] <thiago_home> no idea
[21:45:47] <thiago_home> can you start konqueror and try browsing the web?
[21:46:14] <Belliash> yes, w/o problems
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[21:46:29] <PovAddict> so kio works too... hmm
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[21:47:54] <Belliash> i told you noone knows what might be wrong :P
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[21:48:27] <Belliash> and its fresh installation
[21:48:41] <Belliash> i have emerged kde yesterday :]
[21:49:21] <thiago_home> please ask someone in #gentoo to give you the settings
they use that work
[21:49:25] <thiago_home> there's something wrong in your build
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[21:50:01] <Belliash> paths? starting scripts? anything else that should be take
n look at?
[21:50:28] <thiago_home> the entire system
[21:50:37] <thiago_home> you're running a distribution that may be different in
any aspect
[21:50:46] <thiago_home> it was your choice. Now check everything that can be di
fferent.
(...)
[21:57:08] <Belliash> lol
[21:57:31] <Belliash> i typed startkde in that xterm and it freezed on splash (4
 of 5 icons showed) :P
[21:58:22] <Belliash> and everything exists now with dbus connection error
[21:58:36] <Belliash> exits*
[22:00:14] <Belliash> thiago_home: what is ICE?
[22:00:27] <thiago_home> which context?
[22:00:43] <Belliash> i pressed ctrl+c and it throwed this error:
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[22:00:54] <PovAddict> Internal Compiler Error or X11 Inter-Client Exchange
[22:01:01] <PovAddict> probably the second in your case
[22:01:14] <Belliash> ICE default IO error doing an exit()
[22:01:48] <Belliash> errno = 11
(...)
[22:08:16] <Belliash> i cant stand why kwrite starts but startkde doesnt
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[22:09:05] <thiago_home> run qdbus --system
[22:10:13] <Belliash> a lot of things listed
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[22:10:29] <thiago_home> but it happened immediately?
[22:10:34] <Belliash> yeah
[22:10:41] <thiago_home> then I still don't know
[22:11:10] <Belliash> i just cant stand why kwrite manages t ocontact with dbus,
 but startkde does not
[22:11:24] <thiago_home> run each command in startkde one by one
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[22:13:59] <Belliash> http://wklej.org/id/522084/
[22:14:03] <Belliash> thats the startkde
[22:16:33] <thiago_home> I know
[22:16:37] <thiago_home> now run each command, manually
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[22:18:04] <sandsmark> bash -x /foo/bar/startkde
[22:18:19] <PovAddict> no
[22:18:21] <PovAddict> manually
[22:18:22] <PovAddict> one by one
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[22:18:38] <thiago_home> -x helps too
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[22:18:46] <thiago_home> we'll know which command started giving trouble
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[22:20:46] <adwa> gladiac: ping
[22:20:59] <Belliash> i will give you output of bash -x startkde &> ~/LOG
[22:22:31] <Belliash> http://wklej.org/id/522090/
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[22:25:19] <thiago_home> hmm... I saw something weird in one of your earlier pas
tes
[22:26:14] <thiago_home> root      3047  0.0  0.0   3732    84 ?        S    21:
13   0:00 /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/start_kdeinit +kcminit_startup
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[22:26:43] <Belliash> konqueror stopped to work - starting, but cant browse web
pages - throwing kio errors
[22:26:44] <thiago_home> why is that running as root?
[22:26:53] <Belliash> i got not idea
[22:27:45] <thiago_home> that sounds like the problem to me
(...)