We need to vote on this. Kudos to Lance for setting up bugzilla as a way to do this and have it collected & archived. This is for the purchase of 1 yr renewal of the following domains: GENTOO-DEVICES.COM GENTOO-DEVICES.NET GENTOO-DEVICES.ORG GENTOO-EMBEDDED.COM GENTOO-EMBEDDED.NET GENTOO-EMBEDDED.ORG GENTOODEVICES.COM GENTOODEVICES.NET GENTOODEVICES.ORG GENTOOEMBEDDED.COM GENTOOEMBEDDED.NET GENTOOEMBEDDED.ORG the cost is 1yr - $161.10 (8.95 each). Further discussion can be found on the gentoo-trustees list, subject [gentoo-trustees] [Fwd: 5-Day Certified GoDaddy.com Renewal Notice]
I vote for this purchase..
I'm for it.
Aye
yes
As one who has seen the value of the company you are working for owning FORBESSUCKS.COM and FORBESBLOWS.COM in addition to FORBES.COM I see the value in these. I'm for it.
I don't know exactly why we have need for them, but I won't be against, if all of you think, that this is a good thing[tm]. Count this as an abstention.
aye
I left out the following in the list. The price I quoted is correct, and covers the following as well: GENTOO-GAMES.COM GENTOO-GAMES.NET GENTOO-GAMES.ORG GENTOOGAMES.COM GENTOOGAMES.NET GENTOOGAMES.ORG sorry for the confusion.
I'm all for it
Going against the grain....I vote no. I don't think we need all these domains, personally. We're not even using a majority of them. Go to: http://www.gentoo-devices.com/ http://www.gentoo-devices.net/ http://www.gentoo-devices.org/ http://www.gentoodevices.com/ http://www.gentoodevices.net/ http://www.gentoodevices.org/ They all point to the default godaddy home page. (and I didn't even check the others) Why are we paying for something we aren't using? If it's to protect against cybersquatting, then why don't we have things like: gentoo-server.(com|net|org) gentoo-ppc.(com|net|org) gentoo-amd.(com|net|org) registered? $161.50 is 1-2 nights in a cheaper hotel for a dev at LWE. I'd rather put that money towards that expense than a handful of domain names that we aren't using.
(In reply to comment #12) > They all point to the default godaddy home page. (and I didn't even check the > others) Why are we paying for something we aren't using? If it's to protect > against cybersquatting, then why don't we have things like: I should point out that most of the domains (minus the games ones) were a direct result of the threats from zynot. Daniel bought those in fear of zynot using them for profit, etc. I figured I should at least let you guys know this. Kurt does have a good point, the problem right now is timing. Maybe we could come up with good uses for some of them, we just don't have a lot of time to make up a decision on that. If anything, I think the games domain would be good for something (Corey mentioned to me before he had an idea or two for that). As it stands now, I think we should just renew them all this year, and then work on making a long term decision on them in the next coming months.
Hmm, I find myself fence sitting here, leaning somewhat to Kurt's reasoning on this. From the looks of things, Zynot's about as dead as a terrorist facing the business end of an M1A2's main cannon, so I don't think there is much of a threat (I'd even go as far as to say there's no threat al all anymore) of them swiping said domain names. So the answer to the question of re-registering them seems for me to lean towards the "Nay" side of things. As Kurt said, The money is probably better spent on things like LWE (which I'm gonna have to attend one of these days it looks now...).
So, does anyone want to retract their decision on renewing all the domains? Would like to get this done ASAP if possible.
Would it make sense to make the relative groups justify why the trustees should fund this renewal? We have an embedded team, we have a games team/herd....why not leave it up to them on whether or not to renew. (and, if they want to renew, make them explain why it's worth the money) This just seems like a frivilous purchase to me. We don't use the domains today, haven't used them for the past year....dropping a hundred bucks in case we MAY want to use them in the future just doesn't seem like a wise investment.
I like Kurt's idea.. Should we do this? Give them 2 days to respond with their ideas/plans.. The flipside to this is that other groups may want their own domain pointers as well (www.gentoo-amd64-rocks.com, whatever).. If we give these existing domains to their "groups", then it would be unfair to purchase domains for the other groups. This leads me back to my original opposing opinion that everything should fall under the *.gentoo.org realm. My agreeing to the purchase now was to buy us time to figure out what we want to do with them. In hindsight yeah, that might not be the best reasoning.
(In reply to comment #17) > The flipside to this is that other groups may want their own domain pointers > as well (www.gentoo-amd64-rocks.com, whatever).. If we give these existing > domains to their "groups", then it would be unfair to purchase domains for the > other groups. Do you mean unfair to _not_ purchase domains for the others? > This leads me back to my original opposing opinion that > everything should fall under the *.gentoo.org realm. My agreeing to the > purchase now was to buy us time to figure out what we want to do with them. In > hindsight yeah, that might not be the best reasoning. That was my reasoning as well, but since there appears to be no real rush to act on this and nobody else has been snapping the domains up, we seem to have time to rethink it.
(In reply to comment #17) > The flipside to this is that other groups may want their own domain pointers as > well (www.gentoo-amd64-rocks.com, whatever).. If we give these existing > domains to their "groups", then it would be unfair to purchase domains for the > other groups. This leads me back to my original opposing opinion that > everything should fall under the *.gentoo.org realm. My agreeing to the > purchase now was to buy us time to figure out what we want to do with them. In > hindsight yeah, that might not be the best reasoning. For mips, I'm perfectly fine with mips.gentoo.org. I think it's a far "cooler" name than www.gentoo-mips-roxxors-your-boxxors.net or whatever. Granted we haven't updated the mips page in oh, an eon, but regardless of that, purchasing domains that simply act as pointers back to what we already get for free seems to be, as kurt put it, frivilous. Other arch teams may disagree with me on this, though. As far the other domain names, I think it's a good idea to let the embedded/games herds have a say, since they'd probably make use of such domains, but at the same time, they may carry an opinion closer to what I stated above (i.e., embedded.g.o or games.g.o)
I renewed the following domains for one year costing a total of $110.40: GENTOO-DEVICES.COM GENTOO-DEVICES.NET GENTOO-DEVICES.ORG GENTOO-EMBEDDED.COM GENTOO-EMBEDDED.NET GENTOO-EMBEDDED.ORG GENTOODEVICES.COM GENTOODEVICES.NET GENTOODEVICES.ORG GENTOOEMBEDDED.COM GENTOOEMBEDDED.NET GENTOOEMBEDDED.ORG You may notice that gentoo-games.* isn't in the list. I had just missed the deadline to renew them and I'm in the process of getting into phone contact with GoDaddy to try and sort those. Sorry about missing that, but I was trying to get more input from this bug before going ahead with it.
closing the bug..
Reopening to collect data/reimburse if needed. ramereth: I can't find any record that you were reimbursed for the domain renewal, or how it was made. I know it was a decade ago, but if you have any records for it, that would be superb (if you're still pending reimbursement, we can pay ;-).
(In reply to Robin Johnson from comment #22) > Reopening to collect data/reimburse if needed. > > ramereth: > I can't find any record that you were reimbursed for the domain renewal, or > how it was made. I know it was a decade ago, but if you have any records for > it, that would be superb (if you're still pending reimbursement, we can pay > ;-). Wow... I honestly have no idea but I'd probably guess I wasn't.
I spoke to Lance, and as best we can figure it was never reimbursed, and just forgotten about. He would like to be reimbursed via paypal.me/ramereth
Profile paypal.me/ramereth is disabled per paypal, waiting to hear back from Lance.
no response, closing
