blackace will be joining the infra team to help out with web administration and scripting needs. No cvs commit access to gentoo-x86 is required. Name: Nicholas Wolfwood Location: San Francisco, CA --kurt
All yours.
Blackace is a subject to retirement because he isn't a member of any projects justifying him having developer status. If he doesn't join any project by September 12th, we will retire him from the project.
I meant October 12th.
blackace is mentored by iluxa to become an ebuild developer again. He needs a couple more weeks to pass his quizzes and get reinstated. Retirement postponed till October 26th.
Postponed another week since iluxa isn't available for mentoring atm and it isn't blackace's fault. Blackace, please let us know as soon as you find someone to mentor you. It's taking way too long already, I don't think we can postpone it much longer, have to resolve somehow.
I'll mentor. blackace will send me his quizzes for review.
Any ETA on how long this mentoring will take?
Quizzes have been sent to recruiters for review.
Very good. Recruiters, do you want this bug?
(In reply to comment #9) > Very good. Recruiters, do you want this bug? >
Accidental commit. Any way please contact me by IRC or email to schedule a review session.
Just for the record, Nicholas Wolfwood is not blackace's real name and, historically, he has been unwilling to provide his real name to any but a select few. Maybe it's an issue, maybe it's not. I don't really care one way or the other. That said, since I was the original reporter of this bug and stated his name was Nicholas Wolfwood (I subsequently found out otherwise), I did want to provide clarification in case it matters to other people.
iirc I was very forthcoming with Kurt about it, I told him my real name right after he opened this bug with Nicholas Wolfwood (I had thought it too obvious a pseudonym until then). In fact, I've provided my real name to a great many other devs, and I have no problem with providing it, but I do want it kept in confidence...I interface with too many trolls and asshats as a #gentoo op to have my real name on the roll-call since it's so easily cross-referenced to my business and thus my address, phone number, etc...I don't need that kind of harassment :) (For history, Nicholas Wolfwood is the pseudonym under which I authored some of my first projects and also used on sourceforge prior to being recruited to gentoo).
For the record as well, I met him in person at LWE2007. He's also averse to having is picture taken, but somewhere there is a photo of that shows his face and his real nametag IIRC. He's not the only dev that uses a pseudonym, and while we don't really like pseudonomous new developers, I don't see any reason that blackace and the others can't be grandfathered in, as long as they do actual work.
We did review for the Ebuild quiz yesterday and have scheduled the next session for tomorrow.
(In reply to comment #15) > We did review for the Ebuild quiz yesterday and have scheduled the next session > for tomorrow. > We have reviewed both quizzes and extras. Answers were on the short side but satisfactory for blackace to continue as a developer. I didn't see anything missing in LDAP but I did add cvs to groups on cvs.gentoo.org so everything is probably done here. Please ping me tomorrow if something is missing.
- Last (viewable) bugzilla activity: 261617: 2009-03-07 23:14:25 - Last CVS activity: 3.15 months ago at 23:58 on Dec 03, 2008 First mail sent today.
As CVS records show, Blackace started his ebuild maintainer career today. Bug closed therefore.
Had it on my todo list for a while, I just needed that little push to get started, thanks rane :)
It's clear that blackace doesn't need nor use his commit privileges. Instead of trying to force him to do some commits so he remains a dev and given that the gentoo-ops project is now an official gentoo project, I propose we move him to staffer and add / acknowledge(?) the gentoo-ops project members as Gentoo staffers.
(In reply to comment #20) > It's clear that blackace doesn't need nor use his commit privileges. Certainly not using them right now, I'm actually on devaway, saw this before I got on the plane this morning :) > Instead of trying to force him to do some commits so he remains a dev and given > that the gentoo-ops project is now an official gentoo project, I propose we > move him to staffer and add / acknowledge(?) the gentoo-ops project members as > Gentoo staffers. I think this is a good idea. However, I'm curious why I should have to lose my commit privs after taking and passing all the quizzes to get them... Am I messing up the tree? no... Is a few K in ldap costing us? no... Am I some kind of risk or liability? no... Would it suck and be a waste of everyone's time to make me redo my quizzes if I want to help out at some point? yes. Seems like we could just leave me alone since I'm not doing anybody any harm.
(In reply to comment #21) > However, I'm curious why I should have to lose my commit privs after taking and > passing all the quizzes to get them... > > Am I messing up the tree? no... > Is a few K in ldap costing us? no... > Am I some kind of risk or liability? no... > Would it suck and be a waste of everyone's time to make me redo my quizzes if I > want to help out at some point? yes. > > Seems like we could just leave me alone since I'm not doing anybody any harm. The point is that any developer that stops using his commit privileges in the tree for a long time, becomes a security risk (the ssh key might be compromised and he/she is not likely to notice) and will lose the knowledge by not using it on a regular basis. You've done your last commit on 2010-04-25T05:26Z which is slightly over 6 months ago. As such it's reasonable for the retirement team to want to address your use of gentoo-x86 access as there's no doubt about you being active elsewhere on Gentoo.
(In reply to comment #22) > The point is that any developer that stops using his commit privileges in the > tree for a long time, becomes a security risk (the ssh key might be compromised > and he/she is not likely to notice) and will lose the knowledge by not using it > on a regular basis. Staff devs still have ssh keys in play, so that's a moot point, and clearly I'm not gone, I'm still actively using gentoo, following development, and supporting users, just not maintaining ebuilds. > You've done your last commit on 2010-04-25T05:26Z which is slightly over 6 > months ago. As such it's reasonable for the retirement team to want to address > your use of gentoo-x86 access as there's no doubt about you being active > elsewhere on Gentoo. Oh I'm not questioning whether it's reasonable to want to address it or not, just pointing out that folks that actually do disappear from gentoo land are different stories, there it's perfectly reasonable to clean them out after a while, but like you say obviously I'm still around and following things pretty actively :) Either way, I've got bigger fish to fry in life right now which is why I'm on devaway, but I'll admit it annoys me that folks want to take away the commit privs I've had since I became a dev and even took quizzes to keep, even though I've *never* screwed up anything in cvs, ever :)
(In reply to comment #23) > > Staff devs still have ssh keys in play, so that's a moot point, and clearly I'm > not gone, I'm still actively using gentoo, following development, and > supporting users, just not maintaining ebuilds. > But their ssh keys are not valid for committing. > > Either way, I've got bigger fish to fry in life right now which is why I'm on > devaway, but I'll admit it annoys me that folks want to take away the commit > privs I've had since I became a dev and even took quizzes to keep, even though > I've *never* screwed up anything in cvs, ever :) > It's not that hard to regain them once you become active again. Commit rights are a privilege not a right.
I think we should drop him from metadata.xml, herds and reassign his bugs, no?
(In reply to comment #25) > I think we should drop him from metadata.xml, herds and reassign his bugs, no? Since I couldn't do anything about them if I wanted to now, yeah, probably a good idea to drop from metadata.xml and reassign bugs, but you should usually leave herds alone. Thanks.
Done
What we are waiting for here?
(In reply to comment #28) > What we are waiting for here? Nothing, I've been moved to staffer?
I just removed your cvs access
You haven't committed anything since 2010. http://cia.vc/stats/author/blackace Why do you want to be a staffer? What will you be working on?
blackace has been heavily involved in the day-to-day operation of #gentoo as an integral part of the #gentoo ops team (actually, I believe he is currently team lead, although we are fairly egalitarian) and should, in my opinion, remain staff. . . . not that I expect anyone listens to me any more, but here's $0.02 anyway. :)
(In reply to comment #32) > blackace has been heavily involved in the day-to-day operation of #gentoo as > an integral part of the #gentoo ops team (actually, I believe he is > currently team lead, although we are fairly egalitarian) and should, in my > opinion, remain staff. > > . . . not that I expect anyone listens to me any more, but here's $0.02 > anyway. :) Ok thanks for the info. I just wanted to know what is his role as a staffer.
(In reply to comment #31) > You haven't committed anything since 2010. > > http://cia.vc/stats/author/blackace > > Why do you want to be a staffer? What will you be working on? That might have something to do with Jorge telling me he was pulling my privs in 2010... ;)
Is blackace still around? The comment in here was his last Bugzilla activity. If he is, then please update gentooRoles in LDAP to list more specifically what he does these days.
Added to gentooRoles in LDAP. Summary is I'm still around and will help out in the Ops project as time allows, would be nice to scale back up my activity though as I'm working in a devops role now and could potentially make some contributions to infra again. Thanks for the poke!
Are you still working on livecd project?
No, I haven't contributed to the livecd project in a while. Should I remove livecd from CC?
Is not needed to unCC them... I will update https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo then Thanks!
Could you please look into providing Undertakers with some way of determining (or measuring) your activity in Gentoo?
20:21:23 -!- idle : 78 days 19 hours 5 mins 34 secs [signon: Fri May 4 01:15:49 2018] First mail sent.
Second mail sent.
Third mail sent.
blackace gave us free hand to retire him at will. Will wait the usual 14 days.
Hey Michal, I said either or, I went ahead and set my devaway and I'll see if I can dedicate more time to being active after things settle down in February. I will have to track someone down to get me through the ebuild quiz again and get commit access, as that appears to be the only way to measure activity for Undertakers.
(In reply to Nicholas D. Wolfwood from comment #45) > Hey Michal, I said either or, I went ahead and set my devaway and I'll see > if I can dedicate more time to being active after things settle down in > February. I will have to track someone down to get me through the ebuild > quiz again and get commit access, as that appears to be the only way to > measure activity for Undertakers. Please don't forget to provide your real name.
(In reply to Michał Górny from comment #46) > (In reply to Nicholas D. Wolfwood from comment #45) > > Hey Michal, I said either or, I went ahead and set my devaway and I'll see > > if I can dedicate more time to being active after things settle down in > > February. I will have to track someone down to get me through the ebuild > > quiz again and get commit access, as that appears to be the only way to > > measure activity for Undertakers. > > Please don't forget to provide your real name. It's Matthew Kasa
(In reply to Matthew Kasa from comment #47) > (In reply to Michał Górny from comment #46) > > (In reply to Nicholas D. Wolfwood from comment #45) > > > Hey Michal, I said either or, I went ahead and set my devaway and I'll see > > > if I can dedicate more time to being active after things settle down in > > > February. I will have to track someone down to get me through the ebuild > > > quiz again and get commit access, as that appears to be the only way to > > > measure activity for Undertakers. > > > > Please don't forget to provide your real name. > > It's Matthew Kasa @trustees, could you confirm the match with your records?
I don't see them in our member list, I think they were removed for not voting recently. I do see blackace in our records but only under that nick, no alt identifiers.
If verification of who I am is needed, devs who are still around who have met me in person include nerdboy, robbat2, and vapier. Granted it was at LWE in San Francisco in like 2004 when I was 19 years old, but they might remember the 19 year old kid who was really nervous about having his picture or his real name on the internet, but I've grown up a bit since then.
I've went ahead and updated your name in LDAP as well. So I suppose it's just talking Recruiters into giving you commit access now ;-).
Ping. What's the progress?
(In reply to Michał Górny from comment #53) > Ping. What's the progress? Pinged Freenode about getting my developer cloak back, currently cannot participate in #gentoo-dev or most channels without one. Is that something recruiters could ping them about on my behalf as well? Looking at the list of projects in need of help, it looks like security is a good candidate, so will send those guys an e-mail to see if they could use a hand.
Matthew, please be honest with me. How much real effort have you put in the last months to return to contributing to Gentoo? Have you started filling the quizzes in, as you mentioned? Have you talked to Recruiters? Have you reached any dialog with any teams in need of your services?
Hi Michal, I have actually completed all but part III of the latest version of the ebuild quiz, and I asked you on 03/12 if Recruiters were the right folks to contact FreeNode about restoring my dev cloak so I can participate in #gentoo-dev but you did not respond, so I have not reached out to Recruiters yet, or been able to talk to many other folks, but b-man has reached out in PM in the meantime about having me help the security team, so that is what I am currently looking at doing. Does that help with understanding where I'm at? Happy to chat with you about it, I'm just trying to get to a position where I actually have some ability/access to contribute again, and I'd welcome any suggestions you have.
Thanks for getting back to me. I'm happy to hear you've been making progress. Please don't worry about the cloak now, I'll ping someone to get you +v on #gentoo-dev for now. Also, please start talking to Recruiters. I'm not sure what the exact rules on getting commit access for existing devs are, so you may want to ask them that, for a start. CC-ing security@.
Ping. What's the status as of today? My script tells me we're 3.5 mo past the original deadline, and if we're going to delay this further, I'd like some explicit confirmation that a real progress is happening.
(In reply to Michał Górny from comment #58) > Ping. What's the status as of today? My script tells me we're 3.5 mo past > the original deadline, and if we're going to delay this further, I'd like > some explicit confirmation that a real progress is happening. Hey Michal, b-man recommended I e-mail both recruiters@ and security@ letting them know I'd like to contribute, and I sent both of those e-mails on March 27, and never heard anything back from anyone...
Matt has submitted his ebuild quiz for review and worked a couple of sec bugs.
Per the mail, proceeding with retirement. Done / n/a: - Packages reassignment - Bugs - Wiki - Planet Pending: - IRC cloak - Infra - Forum
gitolite done.
LOG: Running on oystercatcher.gentoo.org for CVS/SVN removal LOG: Removing blackace from groups
LOG: Started on woodpecker.gentoo.org LOG: Found blackace. LOG: Finished at Sun Aug 18 12:37:04 UTC 2019 with rc=0
LOG: Running on pigeon.gentoo.org for lists LOG: Removing blackace from all lists.
LOG: Running on grouse.gentoo.org for bugzilla retire LOG: Found 45816 for blackace. LOG: Found active user account for blackace@gentoo.org LOG: Updated user account. infra done.
Forums done.
IRC cloak wasn't there. All done now.
