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Bug 193855 - media-video/alevt - alevt-demux patch to be able to use teletext together with tv
Summary: media-video/alevt - alevt-demux patch to be able to use teletext together wit...
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Current packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: No maintainer - Look at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers if you want to take care of it
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Keywords: PATCH
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Reported: 2007-09-26 10:45 UTC by Robert Spillner
Modified: 2019-10-20 17:02 UTC (History)
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Description Robert Spillner 2007-09-26 10:45:53 UTC
Instead of alevt-dvb.patch use alevt-dvb-demux.patch from
http://www.baycom.org/~tom/alevt-dvb-demux.patch

Using alevt-dvb.patch requires alevt to read from the dvr0
device to receive tele text. Unfortunately, this is impossible while
watching TV.
With alevt-dvb-demux.patch alevt uses the demux device simultaneously
while grabbing TV from the dvr0 device.
Comment 1 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-09-26 10:52:11 UTC
Uh, this is *huge* patch. Please, request such things upstream, distributions are not a proper place for this.

Comment 2 Robert Spillner 2007-09-26 15:51:55 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Uh, this is *huge* patch. Please, request such things upstream, distributions
> are not a proper place for this.
> 

If this is not the right place to ask for usage of a patch, why are you already using alevt-dvb.patch (http://www.baycom.org/~tom/alevt-dvb.patch) in the alevt package from the same source as the requested patch (http://www.baycom.org/~tom/alevt-dvb-demux.patch) By the way, this one is even slightly bigger than the requested patch.
Comment 3 Steve Dibb (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-10 12:05:26 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> > Uh, this is *huge* patch. Please, request such things upstream, distributions
> > are not a proper place for this.
> > 
> 
> If this is not the right place to ask for usage of a patch, why are you already
> using alevt-dvb.patch (http://www.baycom.org/~tom/alevt-dvb.patch) in the alevt
> package from the same source as the requested patch
> (http://www.baycom.org/~tom/alevt-dvb-demux.patch) By the way, this one is even
> slightly bigger than the requested patch.
> 

The largest patch we have is 1.4k.  This one is 52k.  Big changes ... should go upstream. :)
Comment 4 Robert Spillner 2009-01-10 16:30:48 UTC
Well, my comment *from more than a year ago* was referring to the 1.6.1-r* ebuilds. All of these use the patch from www.baycom.org/... And I'm really not sure whether my request was understood correctly as it was referring to people using alevt with a DVB-receiver (like me).

Of course, *now* with today's ebuild from 2009 you don't use the above mentioned patch anymore.

From my opinion, there was a good reason that alevt-1.6.2 was not put into portage (at least not unmasked): on the one hand there is no dvb-support (while there was by patching 1.6.1) on the other hand there're no major fixes or upgrades in 1.6.2:
(referring to 1.6.2 in http://www.goron.de/~froese/alevt/changes):
    ...

    This is a build-time update to conform to newer compilers and
    system environments.  If you have a running AleVT there's no
    reason to update.  The only real fix is in the html-exporter
    which was producing broken html (missing double-quotes).

So the effect of putting this ebuild into portage is that you silently removed dvb-support from alevt with no substantial gain in stability or functionality.
Comment 5 Steve Dibb (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-10 17:42:15 UTC
Well, we don't have anyone maintaing / testing DVB apps, so that's the reason for the delay.

I don't see how I've removed anything since I didn't remove any ebuilds, either.

So .. what would you recommend?
Comment 6 Robert Spillner 2009-01-10 20:11:43 UTC
Well, certainly you didn't actually remove anything. But for most dvb-users alevt simply won't work after installing the new ebuild.

I really understand that most of the times it is the best choice to stick with the latest stable version of a software. You (i.e. the gentoo package maintainers) chose previously to add some important funtionality by some third-party patch that probably a bunch of people rely on. Unfortunately, the software has been upgraded but the patch wasn't adapted.

My suggestion is to mask alevt-1.6.2 until somebody will have patched the dvb-patch for 1.6.2. I find alevt most useful but, honestly, I doubt that it is still heavily maintained and that reporting the issue to upstream will result in an improved version soon. At the very least, please add a hint to ChangeLog about this issue so 1.6.2 dvb users will be informed to downgrade. At best, make an ebuild alevt-1.6.1-r5 that uses the patch I pointed out in my initial posting for the reason stated there with 1.6.1. ;)
Comment 7 Robert Spillner 2009-01-14 16:51:59 UTC
Sorry, I didn't realize that the new ebuild is already masked. So my last posting was kind of pointless.
Comment 8 Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2019-10-20 17:02:56 UTC
it seems this applies to an older version