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When I do 'emerge -pv --deep --newuse world' not all packages are stated which can be updated. See example below. ==> Hum - I know this is very awkward topic. So if I understood something wrong or am in any other way the reason for this problem: PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT ME ! <== Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. emerge -pv --deep --newuse world 2. emerge -pv --deep --newuse hal Actual Results: Some packages which may be updated are not shown. (One package whichis grub seems not installed at all - wonder how it disappears each time after booting my system :-O Expected Results: show existing (and make) update (possible) by using 'world' Maybe I'm blind - but I can not find 1) hal 2) mc 3) grub (wich IS installed) in the 'emerge -p world' result below. magic atti # emerge -pv --newuse --deep world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-3.6.1 -debug 1,325 kB [ebuild NS ] gnome-extra/gal-2.4.1 -debug -doc 1,168 kB [ebuild U ] mail-client/evolution-2.2.1.1 [2.0.4] +crypt -debug -doc +gstreamer +ipv6 -kerberos -ldap (-mono) -mozilla -nntp +pda -spell +ssl 13,086 kB [ebuild R ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.0-r2 +X +aac -aalib +alsa (-altivec) -arts -cle266 -debug +directfb +dvd -dxr3 +esd +fbcon +ffmpeg -flac +gnome -i8x0 +ipv6 -libcaca +mng +nls +nvidia +opengl +oss +png -samba +sdl -speex -theora* -v4l -vidix +vorbis (-win32codecs) -xinerama +xv +xvmc 0 kB [ebuild U ] www-client/epiphany-1.6.0-r3 [1.4.8] -debug -doc 0 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.2.0 [2.0.1] -debug 135 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-2.10-r1 [2.8.3-r1] -accessibility +cdr +dvdr +hal 0 kB Total size of downloads: 15,716 kB magic atti # emerge -pv --newuse --deep hal mc grub These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.7-r2 [0.4.5-r2] -debug -doc -livecd -pcmcia 1,317 kB [ebuild U ] app-misc/mc-4.6.0-r14 [4.6.0-r13] -7zip +X -debug +gpm +ncurses +nls -samba +slang* +unicode 391 kB [ebuild N ] sys-boot/grub-0.96-r1 -debug -netboot -static 1,001 kB Total size of downloads: 2,710 kB
Isn't /var/lib/portage/world where all emerged packages are listed?! magic atti # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep hal magic atti # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep grub magic atti # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep metalog magic atti # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep links magic atti # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep gpm magic atti # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep mc magic atti # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep emacs magic atti # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep slocate magic atti #
No, it's a list of packages (better: atoms) you merged explicitly. Packages merged by using --oneshot or merged as dependencies are not included in this list.
*** Bug 96087 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*wonder* I explicitly use --deep (and --newuse) on all emerge's. I always thought, that emerge is outstanding for keeping the whole system (all merges/installed packages/software) easily up to date? If it's not this is a big disappointment to me! Is there a workaround to make portage do (that much) I'd like it to do?
(In reply to comment #4) > *wonder* > > I explicitly use --deep (and --newuse) on all emerge's. > I always thought, that emerge is outstanding for keeping the whole system (all > merges/installed packages/software) easily up to date? No, '--deep world' does not mean _all_ installed packages. E.g., it won
(In reply to comment #4) > *wonder* > > I explicitly use --deep (and --newuse) on all emerge's. > I always thought, that emerge is outstanding for keeping the whole system (all > merges/installed packages/software) easily up to date? No, '--deep world' does not mean _all_ installed packages. E.g., it won´t update stale dependencies from packages that you have already unmerged.
So I have to make a list of all 'manually' emerged packages like 'mc'? In my opinion that's not what a user should care about - I've got a degree in cs but how to explain that to my partner - which I try to convince of gentoo linux? Okay, windows is worse - althoug lots of (free) porgramms have a 'check for update' funcitionality - but as I thought portage is outstanding in this regard?! Well whatever - what about adding a feature to portage putting all 'manually' emerged packages in the world file? Shouldn't be a big issue. hehe
(In reply to comment #6) > So I have to make a list of all 'manually' emerged packages like 'mc'? > In my opinion that's not what a user should care about I really don
(In reply to comment #6) > So I have to make a list of all 'manually' emerged packages like 'mc'? > In my opinion that's not what a user should care about I really don´t know what´s wrong with your local portage, mc definitely shows its updates via emerge -uDpv world for, likewise for grub.
me neither: magic atti # emerge -uDpv world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2 -bootstrap -doc -java -nocxx +tcltk 3,980 kB [ebuild U ] net-mail/mailbase-0.00-r9 [0.00-r8] +pam 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/check-0.9.2 157 kB [ebuild U ] x11-terms/xterm-200-r3 [200-r1] -Xaw3d -debug -toolbar +truetype +unicode 0 kB [ebuild U ] sys-devel/binutils-config-1.8-r3 [1.8-r2] 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01-r3 [2.01-r2] -on-the-fly-crypt +unicode 0 kB [ebuild U ] media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.8-r2 [0.8.8] +alsa -debug +esd +oss 0 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gail-1.8.3 [1.8.2-r1] -debug -doc -static 549 kB [ebuild N ] perl-core/Storable-2.13 131 kB [ebuild U ] mail-filter/spamassassin-3.0.4 [3.0.2-r1] +berkdb -doc -qmail +ssl 827 kB [ebuild NS ] gnome-extra/gal-2.4.1 -debug -doc 1,168 kB [ebuild U ] net-libs/gnutls-1.2.4 [1.2.3] +crypt -doc +zlib 2,388 kB [ebuild U ] net-libs/libsoup-2.2.3 [2.2.2] -debug -doc +ipv6 +ssl 349 kB [ebuild NS ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-3.6.1 -debug 1,325 kB [ebuild N ] dev-tcltk/itcl-3.2.1-r1 417 kB [ebuild U ] mail-client/evolution-2.2.1.1 [2.0.4] +crypt -debug -doc +gstreamer +ipv6 -kerberos -ldap (-mono) -mozilla -nntp +pda -spell +ssl 13,086 kB [ebuild N ] dev-tcltk/iwidgets-4.0.1 632 kB [ebuild UD] media-libs/imlib2-1.2.0-r2 [1.2.0.007] +X -doc +gif +jpeg (-mmx) +nls +png +tiff 869 kB [ebuild U ] www-client/epiphany-1.6.0-r3 [1.4.8] -debug -doc 0 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.2.0 [2.0.1] -debug 135 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-2.10-r1 [2.8.3-r1] -accessibility +cdr +dvdr +hal 0 kB [ebuild UD] dev-libs/pth-1.4.0 [2.0.3] 434 kB Total size of downloads: 26,455 kB magic atti # emerge -uDpv world | grep mc magic atti # emerge -uDpv mc These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] sys-devel/binutils-config-1.8-r3 [1.8-r2] 0 kB [ebuild NS ] sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2 -bootstrap -doc -java -nocxx +tcltk 3,980 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/check-0.9.2 157 kB [ebuild U ] x11-terms/xterm-200-r3 [200-r1] -Xaw3d -debug -toolbar +truetype +unicode 0 kB [ebuild U ] net-mail/mailbase-0.00-r9 [0.00-r8] +pam 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-misc/mc-4.6.0-r14 [4.6.0-r13] -7zip +X -debug +gpm +ncurses +nls -samba +slang* +unicode 391 kB Total size of downloads: 4,529 kB
This may be a different problem, but I just noticed on two of my machines that my world file was missing a _lot_ of entries. On both machines it had clearly been erased and rewritten, as it was missing a lot of the things that I emerge at the beginning of an install (vixie-cron), but not games that I'd added recently (flobopuyo). On both machines, it would have happened over a week ago -- one of them has been missing the latest curl update, which happened over a week ago. Are there any circumstances under which deleting your world file is expected behavior? If not, there appears to be a pretty serious bug here... Maybe I did something stupid like stopping an emerge in the "Updating your world file" section, after it had (maybe) erased the previous one but before it had written the new one? That seems far fetched, though, as a reason why this would have happened on two boxes.
This bug may be connected with bug #98036.
Seems all right here: ----- ycan nss_ldap-239 # emerge -uD world -p These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild UD] sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_alpha2-r1 [1.12.0_pre1] [ebuild N ] media-libs/imlib-1.9.14-r3 lycan nss_ldap-239 # emerge -up $(find /var/db/pkg/ -mindepth 2 -maxdepth 2 -printf "%P\n" | sed 's/-[0-9].*//g') These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild UD] sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_alpha2-r1 [1.12.0_pre1] [ebuild U ] media-gfx/gimp-print-5.0.0_beta4 [4.2.7] lycan nss_ldap-239 #
Having the same problem here. Was running the "glsa-check" utilitity and it says that clamav needs an update. Strange, I emerge'd world and it didn't get updated: (emerge sync) master ~ # emerge -avuD world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! Total size of downloads: 0 kB Nothing to merge; do you want me to auto-clean packages? [Yes/No] no Quitting. master ~ # master ~ # emerge -av clamav These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] app-antivirus/clamav-0.87 [0.82-r1] +crypt -mailwrapper -milter (-selinux) 4,173 kB Total size of downloads: 4,173 kB Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] master ~ # emerge -av spamassassin These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] mail-filter/spamassassin-3.0.4 [3.0.2-r1] -berkdb +doc +qmail +ssl 827 kB Total size of downloads: 827 kB Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] master ~ # grep -i clamav /var/lib/portage/world master ~ # grep -i spamass /var/lib/portage/world Can you please let me know what I need to do to keep my gentoo system up to date using portage.
(In reply to comment #9) > Are there any circumstances under which deleting your world file is expected > behavior? If not, there appears to be a pretty serious bug here... This would be a separate bug (not yet filed?). I have heard genone talk about adding proper locking to the world file in order to correct such problems.
If I remember right, I emerged those packages when I followed the handbook: "chapter 9. Installing Necessary System Tools" hal grub metalog links gpm mc emacs slocate That seems to be right especially with grub and metalog in the list... Will packages at that point of time NOT be recorded in the world file? ------------------------------------- If thats true, here is a workaround: First unmerge the "missing" packages. Then emerge the packages -> now the entry in world will be made.
With current portages, any package specified on the command line will be added to world unless the parameter --oneshot is specified. If you want to confirm that installed packages are in world without actually reemerging them the --noreplace parameter can be used.
Jason, thank you for that information! Well, I build my system about one year ago. Does that mean that the "bug" only affects portage versions which are older than about one year?
Well, back on topic, an "all" target would be another candidate for set modules. Any volunteers for tearing emerge into pieces?
Why would people want to update software which is not a dependancy of anything and keep it out of world? Surely all it would achieve is a lot of bad press the first time a newbie runs --depclean on a system with a broken world file. & if for whatever reason someone *really* wanted to do this, couldn't they just mv the world file, run 'regenworld', emerge -auvDN (or whatever) world, then move the old world file back?
"Why would people want to update software which is not a dependancy of anything and keep it out of world?" Well, why would someone like to have the newest version of software when all (s)he gets is more festures or "faster code" or better compatibility? "Surely all it would achieve is a lot of bad press the first time a newbie runs --depclean on a system with a broken world file." Lets hava a USE flag and don't make it a default one. "& if for whatever reason someone *really* wanted to do this, couldn't they just mv the world file, run 'regenworld', emerge -auvDN (or whatever) world, then move the old world file back?" I didn't know that. I probably will once in a while execute the procedure above. Nontheless I would be feel safer and it would be more comfortable to let portage (emerge uD --all) do it. Regards, ~ Attila
I guess it would be fairly trivial to add an 'update-universe' or whatever script to portage. I'm just not sure if it's something to encourage, as everything should either be in the world file or a dependancy. Otherwise it shouldn't be on the system... Maybe there's a better solution, an interactive depclean say in the style of dispatch-conf, which offers (c)lean, (a)dd to world or (i)gnore ? Or a pre-depclean script which takes the output of depclean -p, offers similar choices, then updates world & either unmerges the rest or re-runs depclean? Obviously these would be less trivial to implement, as you would ideally want to check dependancies & e.g. if package2 depends on package1, ask about package2 first & ignore package1 if user chose to add to world. A danger they might want package1 in world in its own right too I guess, but no more than if they emerged something normally & happened to use the dependancy directly too.
Erm .. I didn't understand what's going to happen now (implemenation or not). All I can say that I wold really likt to have this feature - maybe other people too. ;)
emerge --oneshot --uprade $(python -c'import portage;print " ".join(map(lambda x:"="+x, portage.vdb.cpv_all()))' ...roughly.
trivial once set support is in.
*** Bug 129004 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Created an attachment (id=86430) [details] config.log requested in emerge error
(In reply to comment #25) > Created an attachment (id=86430) [edit] [details] > config.log requested in emerge error > Sorry, but how is that related to this feature request?
Maybe related. All of a sudden, updates to this software are not found. mars peter # emerge -puDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] dev-libs/liboil-0.3.6-r1 [0.3.6] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kopete-3.5.3-r3 [3.5.3-r2] mars peter # emerge -pu beyond-sources These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild NS ] sys-kernel/beyond-sources-2.6.17_p30 USE="-build -symlink" mars peter # grep beyond /var/lib/portage/world sys-kernel/beyond-sources mars peter # emerge --info Portage 2.1-r1 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.4.6, glibc-2.3.6-r4, 2.6.17-beyo nd2.2 i686) ================================================================= System uname: 2.6.17-beyond2.2 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.15 app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present] dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r1 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r3 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r5 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shu tdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr /share/texmf/dvips/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf /tex/platex/config/ /usr/share/texmf/xdvi/" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/ terminfo" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer" DISTDIR="/mnt/src/distfiles" FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo ftp://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/g entoo ftp://206.75.217.180/" MAKEOPTS="-j2" PKGDIR="/mnt/src/portage/packages" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/d istfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/mnt/src/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/mnt/src/portage" PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/mnt/src/local/portage /mnt/src/local/overlays/bmg-main" SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="x86 X alsa apache2 apm arts artswrappersuid avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 c li crypt cups dlloader dri dvd dvdr eds emboss encode esd fam flac foomaticdb fo rtran gdbm gif glut gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib ipv6 isdnlog java jpeg lc ms ldap libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg mysql ncurses nls nptl nsplugin offensive ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quickti me readline reflection samba sdl session slang spell spl ssl svga tcltk tcpd tif f truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev vorbis win32codecs xine xml xmms xorg xscreensaver xv zlib elibc_glibc input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse inp ut_devices_evdev kernel_linux userland_GNU" Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGU AS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS
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I don't think that an "all" set is either necessary or desirable. The world "favorites" set, which includes the system set, is the same as "all" when --depclean is used properly. The --depclean implementation was suboptimal in the past, but it is quite good in >=portage-2.1.1. Other things to note: 1) Bug 4698 has been fixed in 2.1.2, ensuring that all installed slots can be automatically updated (world and system are "greedy" with respect to slots). 2) In 2.1.2, unnecessary build time dependencies with not be updated by default. You'll need --with-bdeps=y in order to force those to be updated.
Zac: this bug is about general set support, not just the "all" target (I just added that to the summary so people don't get confused when their bugs are duped against this one).
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