Bugzilla Bug 71609

With emerge mc, and with many other packages, I get this error message:

QA Notice: /usr/lib/mc/cons.saver is setXid, dynamically linked and using lazy bindings.
This combination is generally discouraged. Try: LDFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge mc

This issue was earlier discussed at:

http://lwn.net/Articles/99137/

To quote from a comment:

"Is the decision to use RDLT_LAZY hardcoded in /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ? Maybe it would make sense to change that to the equivalent of RTLD_NOW for SUID apps for more deterministic behavior, since the delay caused by LD_DEBUG abuse only increases the already present delay for dynamic symbol resolution in the middle of an operation."

Now, wouldn't it make sense to fix this in glibc, as this reader says?

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Emerge any package building a +s executable and not using early bindings for it in linker settings.

While this sounds very ideal this change would prevent Xorg from starting.
There is a few cases where setXid is used with lazy bindings. 
It's not the right thing todo but it's just the way things work now.

As stated, at this point in time, we can't reasonably do this.

actually we can, i have such a patch to do so

Created an attachment (id=85428) [details]
setuid-bind-now.patch

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A glibc bug about this was marked as a duplicate of this. But there was a patch
attached, solving the problem. Is this patch going to be submitted or should i
remove "stricter" from my FEATURES since "it's just the way things work now"?

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we had a discussion a while ago among hardened/security but never came to a
resolution

we're dropping the bindnow-flags from ebuilds and the warning has been removed
from portage ... the only bit left is whether we want this functionality in our
glibc (if only for USE=hardened)

(In reply to comment #14)
> we had a discussion a while ago among hardened/security but never came to a
> resolution
> 
> we're dropping the bindnow-flags from ebuilds and the warning has been removed
> from portage ... the only bit left is whether we want this functionality in our
> glibc (if only for USE=hardened)
> 

So...do we? :)  This has been open for ages and it would be nice for it to come
to a conclusion.

hardened does not care about this and never really has. 
We already link -z now -z relro by default. 
Being that there would be no clear/nice way to for *libc to handle executables 
such as X which are +s and require -z lazy bindings. I don't see a point in 
doing anything here. "/etc/suid-bind-now/" while works. It's just not pretty.

Since hardened doesn't care for this, then I think this time we can really
close it.