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Reporter: Martijn Rowaan <bifrost@xs4all.nl>
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xserver.txt /etc/sysconfig/xserver text/plain Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-03 19:44 0000 156 bytes Details
Xorg.0.log Xorg0.log text/plain Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-03 19:45 0000 26.99 KB Details
xorg.conf xorg.conf text/plain Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-03 19:45 0000 7.52 KB Details
lspci lspci text/plain Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-03 19:45 0000 1.38 KB Details
Xorg.0.log X-Log from Gentoo LiveCD 2008.0 text/plain gvwolf3d 2008-07-08 18:51 0000 64.33 KB Details
Xorg.0.log X-Log from Knoppix 5.1.1 text/plain gvwolf3d 2008-07-08 18:59 0000 72.50 KB Details
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Description:   Opened: 2008-04-03 17:54 0000
After booting the livecd either with or without framebuffer, X fails to
initialize and presents me the possibility to read the log. The laptop can run
X flawlessly, but not this version of X, apparently. This release is not the
only one I encountered these problems with, but it is the first time i could
take the time to tap in the errorlog because in other distros the xserver
seemed to come in a loop and all i could do is reset the machine.. Laptop is a
pentium4 2.6Ghz with 512MB ram, a 60 GB hdd and ethernet.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.insert medium and boot

Actual Results:  
Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(II)Module already built-in
(II)Module already built-in
(II)Module already built-in
(EE) intel(0): detecting sil164
(EE) intel(0):Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 112
(EE) intel(0):Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 236
(EE) intel(0):ivch: Unable to read register 0x00 from DVOI2C_B:04
(EE) intel(0):Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 112
(EE) intel(0):tfp410 not detetcted got VID FFFFFFFF: from DVOI2C_E Slave
(EE) intel(0):No valid modes.
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Expected Results:  
a gui

did not have this in the 2007.1 livecd nor in the 2007.1 livedvd

------- Comment #1 From Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) 2008-04-03 17:58:42 0000 -------
Please post/attach the following files:

/etc/sysconfig/xserver
/etc/X11/xorg.conf
/var/log/Xorg.0.log

Also, please give the output of lspci (not lspci -v, please).

You should be able to get into X by starting the CD/DVD with "nox" and then
running: X -configure && mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11 && gdm

------- Comment #2 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-03 19:16:31 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #1)

Hi, after running "X -configure && mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11 && gdm" the
xserver seems to go into the loop and i cannot get it out anymore; tried
ctrl+alt+backspace or switching to virtual terminal. No effect. Now resetting
machine. I will post the outputs you requested when i can.

------- Comment #3 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-03 19:44:35 0000 -------
Created an attachment (id=148488) [details]
the xserver configfile

------- Comment #4 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-03 19:45:05 0000 -------
Created an attachment (id=148490) [details]
xorg0.log

------- Comment #5 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-03 19:45:28 0000 -------
Created an attachment (id=148492) [details]
xorg.conf

------- Comment #6 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-03 19:45:42 0000 -------
Created an attachment (id=148494) [details]
lspci

------- Comment #7 From Josh Saddler 2008-04-03 21:45:58 0000 -------
*** Bug 216086 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Comment #8 From Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) 2008-04-04 17:52:08 0000 -------
Oops!  It should have been:

X -configure && mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf && gdm

------- Comment #9 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-04 19:21:27 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #8)
> Oops!  It should have been:
> 
> X -configure && mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf && gdm
> 

Tried that today, and the xserver fails with same error and log.
If it is helpful to you i can provide you with the logs or run more tests.

------- Comment #10 From Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) 2008-04-30 19:28:09 0000 -------
OK, we've got 2008.0 Beta 2 out now, could you try it and see if anything
changes?

------- Comment #11 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-04-30 19:31:11 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #10)
> OK, we've got 2008.0 Beta 2 out now, could you try it and see if anything
> changes?
> 

Ok i will do that. Thanks for drawing my attention to it.
I will be back here with the results.

------- Comment #12 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-05-01 07:53:01 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #10)
> OK, we've got 2008.0 Beta 2 out now, could you try it and see if anything
> changes?

Ok i have the dvd for i686 arch because the cd was 838.2 MB big and did not fit
onto a stock medium (and my 900MB media weren't recognized by my software).

Changes are that my networkinterface is not recognized at boot time. The module
seems not to be loaded because i cant get it to work with net-setup either.

Furthermore alsasound fails to load now with the intelchipset driver.

Errormessages concerning X are pretty much the same, only sil164 is now
detected. As i fail to load the network i can't post the errormessages here now
due to lack of time. 

------- Comment #13 From gvwolf3d 2008-07-06 19:54:57 0000 -------
Got the same behavior on my machine. Knoppix 5.1.1- an Ubuntu Live-CDs worked
fine. 

# emerge --info
Portage 2.1.2.2 (default-linux/x86/2007.0, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.5-r0,
2.6.24-gentoo-r8 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.80GHz
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
Timestamp of tree: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:45:01 +0000
app-shells/bash:     3.1_p17
dev-lang/python:     2.4.3-r4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.61
sys-devel/automake:  1.10
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.14
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.17-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/terminfo"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo"
LINGUAS="de us"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress
--force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
--filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="acl alsa berkdb cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dri dvd fortran gdbm gpm iconv
ipv6 isdnlog kde midi mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl
pppd python qt3 qt4 readline reflection session spl ssl tcpd unicode x86 xorg
zlib" ALSA_CARDS="intel8x0" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare
dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw
multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias
auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm
authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache
dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache
filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic
negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack
vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux"
LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses
text" LINGUAS="de us" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="vga vesa i810"
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL,
LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS,
PORTDIR_OVERLAY


# emerge -s xorg-server
Searching...   
[ Results for search key : xorg-server ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  x11-base/xorg-server
      Latest version available: 1.3.0.0-r6
      Latest version installed: 1.3.0.0-r6
      Size of files: 9,046 kB
      Homepage:      http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
      Description:   X.Org X servers
      License:       xorg-server MIT


Other information is needed?

------- Comment #14 From gvwolf3d 2008-07-06 19:59:40 0000 -------
my /var/log/Xorg.0.log:

...

(II) LoadModule: "i810"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
(II) Module i810: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 2.1.1
        Module class: X.Org Video Driver
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.1.0
        Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
        ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.7
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.2.3
        Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
        ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.7
(II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810,
        i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
        E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, 965G, 965G, 965Q, 946GZ,
        965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:02:0
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(--) Chipset 852GM/855GM found

...

(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Reloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so
(II) intel(0): initializing int10
(WW) intel(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
(II) intel(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(II) intel(0): VESA BIOS detected
(II) intel(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0
(II) intel(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 32576 kB
(II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM: Intel(r)852GM/852GME/855GM/855GME Graphics Chip
Accelerated VGA BIOS
(II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0
(II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation
(II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(r)852GM/852GME/855GM/855GME Graphics
Controller
(II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVODDC_D" initialized.
(II) Loading sub module "sil164"
(II) LoadModule: "sil164"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//sil164.so
(II) Module sil164: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized.
(EE) intel(0): detecting sil164
(EE) intel(0): Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 112.
(II) Loading sub module "ch7xxx"
(II) LoadModule: "ch7xxx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ch7xxx.so
(II) Module ch7xxx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized.
(EE) intel(0): Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 236.
(II) Loading sub module "ivch"
(II) LoadModule: "ivch"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ivch.so
(II) Module ivch: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_B" initialized.
(EE) intel(0): ivch: Unable to read register 0x00 from DVOI2C_B:04.
(II) Loading sub module "tfp410"
(II) LoadModule: "tfp410"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//tfp410.so
(II) Module tfp410: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_B" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized.
(II) intel(0): detecting tfp410
(EE) intel(0): Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 112.
(EE) intel(0): tfp410 not detected got VID FFFFFFFF: from DVOI2C_E Slave 112.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVODDC_D" removed.
(II) intel(0): Output VGA connected
(II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:ddc2" removed.
(II) intel(0): EDID for output VGA
(II) intel(0): Manufacturer: SAM  Model: 6056  Serial#: 0

...

------- Comment #15 From Andrew Gaffney 2008-07-06 20:01:07 0000 -------
Has anyone tried this with the just-released 2008.0 stuff?

------- Comment #16 From gvwolf3d 2008-07-07 06:16:32 0000 -------
To be exactly, I got this error not using a LiveCD. I installed a
regular Gentoo Linux (See emerge --info).

For evaluation reasons I will download Gentoo 2008.0 LiveCD and then I
will give feedback.

------- Comment #17 From Andrew Gaffney 2008-07-07 12:58:14 0000 -------
Can you guys (the x11 team) shed some light on this?

------- Comment #18 From Donnie Berkholz 2008-07-08 03:58:22 0000 -------
Looks like you're running 2.1.1, that's pretty old although it is still the
latest stable. For those of you not on the LiveCD, it would be worth testing
the latest ~x86/~amd64 driver. Rèmi maintains the intel driver so I'm cc'ing
him instead.

------- Comment #19 From gvwolf3d 2008-07-08 18:51:57 0000 -------
Created an attachment (id=159898) [details]
X-Log from Gentoo LiveCD 2008.0

Xorg.0.log produced by using Gentoo LiveCD 2008.0, same Errors:
...
(EE) intel(0): detecting sil164
(EE) intel(0): Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 112.
...
X still starting

------- Comment #20 From gvwolf3d 2008-07-08 18:59:27 0000 -------
Created an attachment (id=159900) [details]
X-Log from Knoppix 5.1.1

Xorg.0.log produced by using Knoppix 5.1.1

No errors occur. 
Knoppix uses an very old i810 driver:

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so
(II) Module i810: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.7.2
        Module class: X.Org Video Driver
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0

------- Comment #21 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-07-08 19:17:37 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #15)
> Has anyone tried this with the just-released 2008.0 stuff?
> 

Yes tried this.
Livecd boots up nicely until the part where X is initialized.
There the bootprocess seems not to continue.

------- Comment #22 From Rémi Cardona 2008-07-08 20:41:35 0000 -------
X log says you have a monitor connected to the VGA port. If so, please try
without it.

If not, then I guess it's just bad luck. 2.1.1 is _ancient_ in Intel driver
history. I guess we should have put 2.2 or 2.3 as stable but it needs a more
recent xorg-server for better HW support (a lot of HW related stuff such as VT
switching is handled by the server without any help of the drivers...).

So either we stick with xserver 1.3 + i810 2.1.1 or we go to 1.4.2 with i810
2.3.2. Any other solution is just bound to get users into more trouble.

I'm sure this is not what you wanted to hear...

------- Comment #23 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-07-09 16:29:54 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #22)
> X log says you have a monitor connected to the VGA port. If so, please try
> without it.
> 
> If not, then I guess it's just bad luck. 2.1.1 is _ancient_ in Intel driver
> history. I guess we should have put 2.2 or 2.3 as stable but it needs a more
> recent xorg-server for better HW support (a lot of HW related stuff such as VT
> switching is handled by the server without any help of the drivers...).
> 
> So either we stick with xserver 1.3 + i810 2.1.1 or we go to 1.4.2 with i810
> 2.3.2. Any other solution is just bound to get users into more trouble.
> 
> I'm sure this is not what you wanted to hear...
> 

Is it me or am i assuming rigt that the driver in combination wit this version
of X is just faulty? So when we come to the conclusion this is true, is there a
way to repair it? Has anyone had contact with the driverdevelopers?

------- Comment #24 From Rémi Cardona 2008-07-09 17:35:33 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #23)
> Is it me or am i assuming rigt that the driver in combination wit this version
> of X is just faulty? So when we come to the conclusion this is true, is there a
> way to repair it? Has anyone had contact with the driverdevelopers?

I am the maintainer of the driver, and I am in contact with the developers :)

There are a couple problems :
1) 2.1.1 is old, 2.2.1 is much better, and 2.3.2 is even better.
2) xorg-server 1.3 is old, and plagued with various little bugs and quirks
3) no one is interested in 1.3 anymore, it's dead
4) nobody really tests new drivers with old servers or vice versa

The only viable option in the long run is to stabilize xorg-server 1.4.2 with
xf86-video-i810 2.3.2. That's just about it.

------- Comment #25 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-07-09 17:42:08 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #24)
> I am the maintainer of the driver, and I am in contact with the developers :)
> 
> There are a couple problems :
> 1) 2.1.1 is old, 2.2.1 is much better, and 2.3.2 is even better.
> 2) xorg-server 1.3 is old, and plagued with various little bugs and quirks
> 3) no one is interested in 1.3 anymore, it's dead
> 4) nobody really tests new drivers with old servers or vice versa
> 
> The only viable option in the long run is to stabilize xorg-server 1.4.2 with
> xf86-video-i810 2.3.2. That's just about it.
> 

Pleased to meet you!  :-D
So into the process of stabilizing this combo you speak of, can i be of help
testing? Do you have such hardware yourself? Please let me know, i do have a
bit of time and like solving this problem.
By the way, is it possible the driver does also affect the audiopart of the
chipset?

------- Comment #26 From Rémi Cardona 2008-07-09 17:58:24 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #25)
> So into the process of stabilizing this combo you speak of, can i be of help
> testing?

Just read the Gentoo Handbook on how to unmask packages and update to
xorg-server 1.4.2 and xf86-driver-i810 2.3.2. That's about it :)

As for the stabilizing itself, it's a current work in progress. It should be
done within a few weeks maybe.

> Do you have such hardware yourself?

I have a laptop with an 855GM chipset. So far, most of the bugs that have been
reported to Gentoo have been solved. It's a really stable combination.

> By the way, is it possible the driver does also affect the audiopart of the
> chipset?

No, those are 2 completely separate drivers. You'll have to open a new bug
assigned to the correct team if you have sound issues.

Thanks

------- Comment #27 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-07-09 18:12:58 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #26)
> (In reply to comment #25)
> > So into the process of stabilizing this combo you speak of, can i be of help
> > testing?
> 
> Just read the Gentoo Handbook on how to unmask packages and update to
> xorg-server 1.4.2 and xf86-driver-i810 2.3.2. That's about it :)
> 
> As for the stabilizing itself, it's a current work in progress. It should be
> done within a few weeks maybe.
> 
> > Do you have such hardware yourself?
> 
> I have a laptop with an 855GM chipset. So far, most of the bugs that have been
> reported to Gentoo have been solved. It's a really stable combination.

Ok thank you very much. I have primarily reported this bug for the installer
cd. This leaves me installing via minimal as an only choice now for my lappy.
Is it safe to assume the next installercd will have the stable driver and
version of X? (given a positive outcome of your testing of course...)

Kind regards
Martijn Rowaan

------- Comment #28 From Rémi Cardona 2008-07-10 07:47:10 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #27)
> Is it safe to assume the next installercd will have the stable driver and
> version of X? (given a positive outcome of your testing of course...)

I sincerely hope so. I'm not very happy about us shipping such an old X11
stack, but given the circumstances, it's the best we could do.

Thanks

------- Comment #29 From Martijn Rowaan 2008-07-10 17:34:49 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #28)
> (In reply to comment #27)
> > Is it safe to assume the next installercd will have the stable driver and
> > version of X? (given a positive outcome of your testing of course...)
> 
> I sincerely hope so. I'm not very happy about us shipping such an old X11
> stack, but given the circumstances, it's the best we could do.
> 
> Thanks
> 
Yes well i am not sure about that, because it would make more sense then to
ship with an old crappy driver that *works* for the gentoo-installer, while
during install it gets updated anyway.
Now i cannot use the installer and have to either fall back on the 2007
installercd or use the minimal instead.
But that might be the biased perspective an end-user could have and i can
visualize that quite clearly.  ;-)

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