71538 2004-11-17 08:13 0000 fam uses einstall instead of `make install DESTDIR=$D` 2004-11-21 18:51:04 0000 1 1 1 Unclassified Gentoo Linux Core system unspecified All All RESOLVED FIXED P2 normal --- 1 vapier@gentoo.org vapier@gentoo.org foser@gentoo.org qa@gentoo.org vapier@gentoo.org 2004-11-17 08:13:48 0000 einstall is a kludge that is supposed to be used only when DESTDIR is not supported foser@gentoo.org 2004-11-17 15:43:25 0000 yeah but its not sin either if it is used like that & works... whats this for pointless crusade. fam is a dead end, so are it's ebuilds vapier@gentoo.org 2004-11-17 18:03:44 0000 if you wont i will foser@gentoo.org 2004-11-18 10:42:35 0000 whats your problem ? there are literally thousands of ebuilds in the tree that use einstall, even most eclasses do. So you want to move to the more correct 'make DESTDIR=${D} install' method for those packages that support it (quite a lot do not), all fine by me. What is the right approach ? Filing bugs for every package you encounter that does this ? Wouldn't it be better to maybe inform developers and make it a community effort instead of lonely man's crusade ? QA isn't you 'fixing up' things behind someone's back, it's making people aware of the how & why's and urging them to do the right thing. That is also a lot more efficient. Realisticly I'd say the FAM package won't live to see the day that einstall will have dissapeared from the tree (or the default portage function has been adapted) and as such I find it a waste of time to fix a perfectly fine working ebuild, but that's my time.. maybe you have a lot more of it to spend. In that light I think it's ironic that you haven't opened such a bug yet for gamin, which is the replacement for the age-old fam package & as a fresh ebuild does use einstall. BTW There is a longstanding bug about this issue (should still be open) where I happened to push for the adaptation of DESTDIR, so I know exactly what you are on about. As a matter of fact, over time we have moved & tested a lot of gnome packages to the DESTDIR format. vapier@gentoo.org 2004-11-18 22:00:38 0000 > Filing bugs for every package you encounter that does this ? i'm in the process > Wouldn't it be better to maybe inform developers and make it a community > effort instead of lonely man's crusade ? i've tried that, it doesnt work i've written docs (man pages/etc...) and written e-mails > QA isn't you 'fixing up' things behind someone's back, it's making people > aware of the how & why's and urging them to do the right thing. like filing bugs ? see above > BTW There is a longstanding bug about this issue (should still be open) where > I happened to push for the adaptation of DESTDIR not quite sure what you're refering to in terms of 'adoption' there is a bug (which i've commented on) about changing the default src_install() to use `make install DESTDIR` in terms of documentation, i've already done that LONG ago vapier@gentoo.org 2004-11-21 18:51:04 0000 fixed in cvs