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    <bug>
          <bug_id>33119</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2003-11-09 22:57 0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>/usr/bin/tar: sys-apps/star conflicts with sys-apps/tar</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2006-03-22 09:43:52 0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>Gentoo Linux</product>
          <component>Applications</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Linux</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter>wschlich@gentoo.org</reporter>
          <assigned_to>slarti@gentoo.org</assigned_to>
          <cc>andre.hinrichs@gmx.de</cc>
    
    <cc>andres.becerra@gmail.com</cc>
    
    <cc>askwar@digitalprojects.com</cc>
    
    <cc>bakkerh@shaw.ca</cc>
    
    <cc>chris@realcomputerguy.com</cc>
    
    <cc>emmi3@gmx.de</cc>
    
    <cc>gentoo@nephros.org</cc>
    
    <cc>greg_g@gentoo.org</cc>
    
    <cc>j-gentoo@gazonk.org</cc>
    
    <cc>mholzer@gentoo.org</cc>
    
    <cc>sal@stodge.org</cc>
    
    <cc>satya@gentoo.org</cc>
    
    <cc>seemant@gentoo.org</cc>
    
    <cc>sguarin@fi.uba.ar</cc>
    
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          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>wschlich@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2003-11-09 22:57:06 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>both sys-apps/star and sys-apps/tar provide /usr/bin/tar. this is unacceptable. as sys-apps/star provides /usr/bin/star, it should be considered safe to &quot;remove&quot; /usr/bin/tar from sys-apps/star&apos;s installation file list.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>wschlich@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2003-11-09 23:53:35 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>ARGH! the afio Makefile SUCKS! I have the bash environment variable $I set
to /local/int (I use it with $CDPATH) and this damn Makefile uses it because
CFLAGS is hardcoded to:

--8&lt;--
CFLAGS = ${CFLAGS1} $1 $2 $3 $4 $5 $6 $7 $8 $9 $a $b $c $d $e $f $g $I
--8&lt;--

but I is commented out by default:

--8&lt;--
#I       = -I.
--8&lt;--

so starting make with an empty environment works:

--8&lt;--
[root@prometheus(pts/10):afio-2.4.7]$ env -i make 
gcc -Wall -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer  -DMEMCPY -DMKDIR   -DVOIDFIX  -DHAVEFCNTL
   -DHAVEMEMCMP -DDEFFMTCMD=&apos;&quot;fdformat /dev/fd0H1440&quot;&apos;  -DPRG_COMPRESS=&apos;&quot;gzip&quot;&apos;
-DHAVEFNMATCH    -c -o afio.o afio.c
afio.c: In function `incheckentry&apos;:
afio.c:1553: warning: `linkp&apos; might be used uninitialized in this function
afio.c: In function `infill&apos;:
afio.c:1602: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c: In function `inhead&apos;:
afio.c:1724: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c: In function `openotty&apos;:
afio.c:2857: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c:2917: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c:2980: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c:2997: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c:3062: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c: In function `out&apos;:
afio.c:3275: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c: In function `outhead&apos;:
afio.c:3559: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c: In function `outhead2&apos;:
afio.c:3591: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c: In function `tocentry&apos;:
afio.c:4124: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
afio.c: In function `xfork&apos;:
afio.c:4304: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous `else&apos;
gcc -Wall -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer  -DMEMCPY -DMKDIR   -DVOIDFIX  -DHAVEFCNTL
   -DHAVEMEMCMP -DDEFFMTCMD=&apos;&quot;fdformat /dev/fd0H1440&quot;&apos;  -DPRG_COMPRESS=&apos;&quot;gzip&quot;&apos;
-DHAVEFNMATCH    -c -o compfile.o compfile.c
gcc -Wall -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer  -DMEMCPY -DMKDIR   -DVOIDFIX  -DHAVEFCNTL
   -DHAVEMEMCMP -DDEFFMTCMD=&apos;&quot;fdformat /dev/fd0H1440&quot;&apos;  -DPRG_COMPRESS=&apos;&quot;gzip&quot;&apos;
-DHAVEFNMATCH    -c -o exten.o exten.c
gcc -Wall -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer  -DMEMCPY -DMKDIR   -DVOIDFIX  -DHAVEFCNTL
   -DHAVEMEMCMP -DDEFFMTCMD=&apos;&quot;fdformat /dev/fd0H1440&quot;&apos;  -DPRG_COMPRESS=&apos;&quot;gzip&quot;&apos;
-DHAVEFNMATCH    -c -o match.o match.c
gcc  afio.o compfile.o exten.o match.o  -o afio
afio.o(.text+0x6689): In function `syserr&apos;:
: warning: `sys_errlist&apos; is deprecated; use `strerror&apos; or `strerror_r&apos; instead
afio.o(.text+0x6680): In function `syserr&apos;:
: warning: `sys_nerr&apos; is deprecated; use `strerror&apos; or `strerror_r&apos; instead
[root@prometheus(pts/10):afio-2.4.7]$ 
--8&lt;--

can we &quot;catch&quot; these things in the ebuild?</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>wschlich@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2003-11-10 00:07:11 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>I *hate* bugzilla for advancing to the next bug after committing a change
for a a bug &gt;:-(</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>wschlich@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2003-11-10 00:09:02 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Can we move the second comment to bug #33094 somehow?!</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>vapier@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2003-11-10 06:30:11 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>actually, unless you have an older version of tar installed, it uses /bin/tar
while star uses /usr/bin/tar</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>wschlich@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2003-11-10 06:37:51 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>yup, you&apos;re right, sorry. the problem actually is that &quot;which tar&quot; (&quot;type
-p tar&quot;)  says &quot;/usr/bin/tar&quot; instead of &quot;/bin/tar&quot;, even if my path has
&quot;/bin&quot; before &quot;/usr/bin&quot;. anyway, I really think it&apos;s confusing to have two
tar-binaries on the system, so please prevent star&apos;s /usr/bin/tar from being
installed. thanks!</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>vapier@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2004-10-09 23:51:55 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 60030 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>carlo@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2004-10-13 11:18:26 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 66855 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>vapier@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2004-10-25 20:01:31 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>note that they both install /usr/sbin/rmt also</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>carlo@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2004-10-27 06:03:12 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 69117 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>gentoo@nephros.org</who>
            <bug_when>2004-10-29 10:10:08 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Note that the star binary is also not syntax-compatible with GNU tar, which CAN break some init/rc scripts, for example it breaks the unpack of the udev device tarball in /sbin/rc (line 230ff).
This COULD render a system non-bootable if the old-style /dev entries are not sufficient.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>wschlich@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2004-10-29 10:41:22 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>lostlogic, will you do something about it?
if not, would you want _me_ to do something about it? :)</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>motaboy@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2004-10-30 08:51:32 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 69504 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>caleb@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2004-11-08 11:52:44 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 70490 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>carlo@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2004-11-17 06:33:55 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 71518 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>wschlich@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-01-21 00:55:24 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*push* any news here?</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>carlo@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-02-05 07:44:47 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 80859 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>carlo@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-02-15 10:00:48 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 82130 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>greg_g@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-04-20 14:28:21 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 89854 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>chris@realcomputerguy.com</who>
            <bug_when>2005-04-20 16:09:37 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 89854 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>abatko@cs.mcgill.ca</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-11 11:08:54 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>I ran into an error described in Bug 82130 and saw that it was deemed a duplicate of this one.  Reading through this report, I fixed my problem by editing:

/var/tmp/portage/kdevelop-3.1.2/work/kdevelop-3.1.2/parts/appwizard/common/Makefile

...and changing:
TAR = gnutar

...to:
TAR = tar

...then doing:
ebuild /usr/portage/dev-util/kdevelop/kdevelop-3.1.2.ebuild compile
ebuild /usr/portage/dev-util/kdevelop/kdevelop-3.1.2.ebuild install
ebuild /usr/portage/dev-util/kdevelop/kdevelop-3.1.2.ebuild qmerge</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>gentoo@nephros.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-11 15:01:44 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>well, it&apos;s definitely not a kdevelop-only problem.
Bumping this is a good thing though.

This bug is getting rather old now, looks to me we don&apos;t actually need a *solition*, just a *decision* either way would be beneficial.

My humble opinion: 
tar == /bin/tar == /usr/bin/tar == GNU tar
star==star wherever it lives; call it by its name or symlink manually if you want it.
As suggested in the initial bug report.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>askwar@digitalprojects.com</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-24 09:21:46 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #21)

&gt; My humble opinion: 
&gt; tar == /bin/tar == /usr/bin/tar == GNU tar

Not quite. tar is always the &quot;system&quot; tar. Eg. have a look at real Unix systems
like Solaris or HP-UX. There, &quot;tar&quot; is (close to) never GNU tar.

For this reason, it would be nice to have symlink gtar -&gt; /bin/tar, so that it&apos;s
easily selectable, which tar is to be used.

Have a look at bug 93816 which I just filed.
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>gentoo@nephros.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-24 10:41:18 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>I was talking about Linux, which, even if you don&apos;t follow Mr Stallman, is GNU/
Linux in the sense of kernel+GNU utils in virually all incarnations; it&apos;s quite 
sane for scripts to expect tar to be gtar (and if you avoid GNU-isms you can 
still keep things portable).

I&apos;m not sure how HP/UX and others (IRIX and AIX do similar things) handle broken 
symlinks in core system utilities at boot time, but symlinking to /bin/tar 
should NOT be done here because /usr might not be mounted when /bin/tar is 
needed, as in the abovementioned case of untarring the udev device tarball.
(Symlinks to /usr/bin/tar are fine though, obviously.)
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>askwar@digitalprojects.com</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-24 14:23:24 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #23)
&gt; I was talking about Linux, which, even if you don&apos;t follow Mr Stallman, is GNU/
&gt; Linux in the sense of kernel+GNU utils in virually all incarnations; it&apos;s quite 
&gt; sane for scripts to expect tar to be gtar

No, it&apos;s not. Sane scripts should expect a posix tar. If GNUisms are expected,
scripts should select a GNU tar. Now, I of course do now that in present time
that is just wishful thinking.

&gt; I&apos;m not sure how HP/UX and others (IRIX and AIX do similar things) handle broken 
&gt; symlinks in core system utilities at boot time, but symlinking to /bin/tar 
&gt; should NOT be done here because /usr might not be mounted when /bin/tar is 
&gt; needed,

I don&apos;t follow or understand that. Suppose /usr might not be mounted, there
would still be the /bin/tar executable/binary. But as soon as /usr would be
mounted, there might be a gtar &quot;compatability&quot; or maybe convenience link.
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>carlo@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-30 06:05:05 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 94481 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>greg_g@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-30 06:24:23 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Reassigning to base-system. </thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>vapier@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-30 16:52:04 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>base system does not maintain tar nor do we care about it</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-31 02:43:43 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #27)
&gt; base system does not maintain tar nor do we care about it

Then please fix metadata.xml

# cat /usr/portage/app-arch/tar/metadata.xml
&lt;?xml version=&quot;1.0&quot; encoding=&quot;UTF-8&quot;?&gt;
&lt;!DOCTYPE pkgmetadata SYSTEM &quot;http://www.gentoo.org/dtd/metadata.dtd&quot;&gt;
&lt;pkgmetadata&gt;
&lt;herd&gt;base-system&lt;/herd&gt;
&lt;/pkgmetadata&gt;</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>vapier@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-31 05:25:36 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>typo on my part ... i meant &apos;star&apos; not &apos;tar&apos;

base system does not maintain star nor does it care about it</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-05-31 12:40:38 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #29)
&gt; typo on my part ... i meant &apos;star&apos; not &apos;tar&apos;

Oh, I see. :-) Well, this package needs maintainer.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>vapier@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-06-09 17:56:14 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 95618 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-06-12 03:55:48 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Unsolved for 1 1/2 years, no maintainer and still causing just troubles. What
about hard-masking this? :/</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>slarti@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-06-16 10:42:52 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Fixed in CVS, thanks.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-06-16 14:36:53 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 96298 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-06-16 14:38:01 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Still breaks kdevelop, even with star-1.5_alpha50.ebuild. :-(</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>sguarin@fi.uba.ar</who>
            <bug_when>2005-06-17 06:50:31 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Created an attachment (id=61388)
Reposting foo patch that excludes gnutar being merged
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>sguarin@fi.uba.ar</who>
            <bug_when>2005-06-17 06:51:24 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Created an attachment (id=61389)
Reposting ebuild using patch
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>slarti@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2005-06-21 03:22:19 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>This should be fixed in -r1. Thanks a lot.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-03-22 09:39:51 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>*** Bug 127196 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
          </long_desc>
      
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