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    <bug>
          <bug_id>178160</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2007-05-12 09:27 0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>net-wireless/bluez-utils-3.10 - hidd doesn&apos;t start</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2007-08-26 13:11:46 0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>Gentoo Linux</product>
          <component>Ebuilds</component>
          <version>2006.1</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Linux</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter>jakub@gentoo.org</reporter>
          <assigned_to>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</assigned_to>
          <cc>davidepesa@gmail.com</cc>
    
    <cc>dfgweb@dfg.homedns.org</cc>
    
    <cc>dick@mrns.nl</cc>
    
    <cc>gentoo-bugs2@grumly.info</cc>

      

      
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-12 09:27:18 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>&lt;snip&gt;
 * Starting Bluetooth ...
 *     Running hid2hci ...                                                                                                             [ ok ]
 *     Starting hcid ...                                                                                                               [ ok ]
 *     Starting hidd ...
Can&apos;t listen on HID control channel: Address already in use                                                                            [ ok ]
&lt;/snip&gt;</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dick@mrns.nl</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-12 10:38:22 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>try disabling the input.service:
1. Edit /etc/bluetooth/input.service
2. Replace Autostart=true to Autostart=false
3. Restart bluetooth (/etc/init.d/bluetooth restart)

You can read more about the input service at:
http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/Input</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-12 10:43:12 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #1)
&gt; try disabling the input.service:

Well, that helps, thanks. Doesn&apos;t solve the issue though... :)

&gt; You can read more about the input service at:
&gt; http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/Input

This link appears completely unresponsive...
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>gupe275@hotmail.com</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-12 17:14:19 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Same problem here..

Setting Autostart=false helped me.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>gupe275@hotmail.com</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-13 08:12:38 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>hmm...does thist mean that I have to reconnect keyboard/mouse with every reboot/disconnect?

</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dick@mrns.nl</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-13 10:02:30 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>No, but I&apos;m experiencing the same issue with my notebook. Please make sure your hidd server is started, it also seems to help to keep your adapter visible and connectable (see bluetooth-applet from bluez-gnome).</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dick@mrns.nl</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-15 17:30:43 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #2)
&gt; Doesn&apos;t solve the issue though... :)

I suppose we shouldn&apos;t use hidd anymore but instead use the input service dbus interface:

#!/usr/bin/python
import dbus
bus = dbus.SystemBus()
# service activation
bmgr = dbus.Interface(bus.get_object(&apos;org.bluez&apos;, &apos;/org/bluez&apos;), &apos;org.bluez.Manager&apos;)
bus_id = bmgr.ActivateService(&apos;input&apos;)
imgr = dbus.Interface(bus.get_object(bus_id, &apos;/org/bluez/input&apos;), &apos;org.bluez.input.Manager&apos;)

# device creation
path = imgr.CreateDevice(&apos;xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx&apos;)
idev = dbus.Interface (bus.get_object(bus_id, path), &apos;org.bluez.input.Device&apos;)

# host initiated connection
idev.Connect()

###########################

Could you please check if this works for you? It doesn&apos;t work for my dinovo :(</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-15 17:37:12 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #6)
&gt; Could you please check if this works for you? It doesn&apos;t work for my dinovo :(

Nope, doesn&apos;t work... Plus, I really kinda prefer the old way. :)
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 12:45:23 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>hidd is gone in 3.10.1 The new service architecture is what should be used. If you want the old daemon use USE=&quot;old-daemons&quot;. Please test this using 3.10.1:

ver 3.10.1:
        Add option to disable installation of manual pages.
        Fix input service encryption setup.
        Fix serial service methods.
        Fix network service connection handling.
        Provide a simple init script.

the encryption setup could be what&apos;s borking it</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>davidepesa@gmail.com</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 16:05:34 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Hi! I have upgraded to bluez-utils-3.10.1 with USE=&quot;-cups -debug -examples hal -old-daemons -test-programs usb&quot; and now my bluetooth mouse no longer works...
With bluez-utils-2.25-r1 it worked very well (automatic pairing without any user intervention).
With bluez-utils-3.10-r1 automatic pairing no longer worked, but I could anyway use `hidd --search` or `hidd --connect` to manually connect to my mouse.
Now hidd is gone and I cannot use my mouse :(
Recompiling with USE=&quot;old-daemons&quot; isn&apos;t a solution IMHO, because those daemon are deprecated, and I&apos;d prefer to go back to the old behaviour of bluez-utils-2.25 (automatic pairing of input devices) anyway...</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>davidepesa@gmail.com</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 16:12:36 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Btw, that little script from comment #6 does work for me... Where is it supposed to be put?</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 16:19:29 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>19:17 &lt; holtmann&gt; It works fine actually. However they have to repair the device.

Please try repairing the device.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>davidepesa@gmail.com</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 16:53:58 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #11)
&gt; 19:17 &lt; holtmann&gt; It works fine actually. However they have to repair the
&gt; device.
&gt; 
&gt; Please try repairing the device.
&gt; 

How?</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dick@mrns.nl</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 17:22:10 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>&gt; Btw, that little script from comment #6 does work for me... Where is it supposed to be put?

I think it should be adopted by bluez-gnome / kdebluetooth or another wizard thingy.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>davidepesa@gmail.com</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 17:41:40 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Sorry guys, but I really have some problems in understanding how this whole new &quot;Services&quot; thing works... For now I will use the script posted in comment #6 to connect to my mouse. I hope that kdebluetooth or some other tool will provide an easy and user-friendly interface to bluez as soon as possible...</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>davidepesa@gmail.com</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 18:28:50 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Well...now the python script doesn&apos;t work anymore! :O

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File &quot;./MightyMouse-connect.py&quot;, line 13, in ?
    path = imgr.CreateDevice(&apos;00:14:51:C2:9B:F6&apos;)
  File &quot;//usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py&quot;, line 63, in __call__
    return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords)
  File &quot;//usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py&quot;, line 134, in __call__
    args,
  File &quot;//usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/dbus/connection.py&quot;, line 595, in call_blocking
    reply_message = self.send_message_with_reply_and_block(
dbus.DBusException: org.bluez.input.Error.AlreadyExists: Input Already exists
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dick@mrns.nl</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 19:16:48 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Created an attachment (id=119461)
hidtool.py

Improved script</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-16 19:28:19 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #16)
&gt; Created an attachment (id=119461) [edit]
&gt; hidtool.py
&gt; 
&gt; Improved script
&gt; 

Reopening this bug until we have hid reported working </thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>jakub@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-17 06:38:07 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #12)
&gt; &gt; Please try repairing the device.
&gt; How?

Well, the mouse should have a button to do connect/pairing. Press it and `hcitool scan` if dbus doesn&apos;t pick it up - this has nothing to do with repair as in hardware repair of a broken thing, I think you got confused :)

(In reply to comment #14)
&gt; Sorry guys, but I really have some problems in understanding how this whole new
&gt; &quot;Services&quot; thing works...

You are not the only one who&apos;s unhappy with this:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/29506..
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dick@mrns.nl</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-20 18:28:36 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Could someone please (re)try the input service with the latest bluez-gnome-0.7 (now in portage). The new bluetooth-applet should ask for authorisation for incoming requests. hidtool.py is still required to add the input devices.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>gupe275@hotmail.com</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-20 20:25:15 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #19)

Yes, bluez-gnome-0.7 adds itself as authorization agent.
Though I had to make sure that the &quot;Automatically authorize...&quot; setting was set  since it  will be quite hard to click on the notify balloon until the mouse is working.

So to summarize:
I have input.services, autostart=false;
I ran hcitool scan to get the addresses of the keyboard and mouse.
Used the hcitool.py script to add the addresses:
    hcitool.py --connect &lt;myaddress&gt;
And I have to run hcitool.py without arguments on _every_ reboot to trigger the input daemon.

As a side note, restarting my bluetooth gives:
 * Service bluetooth stopping
 * Service bluetooth stopped
 * Service bluetooth starting     [ !! ]
 * Service bluetooth started
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>gupe275@hotmail.com</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-20 20:38:17 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #20)
&gt; And I have to run hcitool.py without arguments on _every_ reboot to trigger the input daemon.


If I set input.service autostart=true, I don&apos;t have to run hcitool.py on every reboot.

Thanks</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-20 20:47:54 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #21)
&gt; (In reply to comment #20)
&gt; &gt; And I have to run hcitool.py without arguments on _every_ reboot to trigger the input daemon.
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; If I set input.service autostart=true, I don&apos;t have to run hcitool.py on every
&gt; reboot.
&gt; 

That&apos;s good to hear. Maybe add a hid use flag to make it autostart automatically.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dick@mrns.nl</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-21 09:25:48 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>I think we&apos;d better use the old-daemons use flag to disable the input service, maybe we should add the hidd init.d script to start the hid daemon.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-21 16:49:23 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #23)
&gt; I think we&apos;d better use the old-daemons use flag to disable the input service,
&gt; maybe we should add the hidd init.d script to start the hid daemon.
&gt; 

Well as long as the input service has autostart=false, I don&apos;t see any problem in always installing it besides of course little bloat. Yes I think it would be prudent to add a hidd init script for now with the USE=&quot;old-daemons&quot; use flag.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dick@mrns.nl</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-21 18:13:47 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Created an attachment (id=119911)
hidtool.py

&gt; I don&apos;t see any problem in always installing it
Okay, we are talking about the same thing, I don&apos;t want to disable the input service, just setting autostart to false when old-daemons is enabled.

I&apos;ve updated the hidtool.py script so one can re-connect devices by &apos;path&apos;, list productid / vendorid and some cosmetic fixes :)</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-05-24 16:33:06 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #25)
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; I don&apos;t see any problem in always installing it
&gt; Okay, we are talking about the same thing, I don&apos;t want to disable the input
&gt; service, just setting autostart to false when old-daemons is enabled.
&gt; 

 
+*bluez-utils-3.11 (24 May 2007)
+
+  24 May 2007; Petteri Räty &lt;betelgeuse@gentoo.org&gt;
+  +files/3.11/conf.d-hidd, +files/3.11/init.d-hidd,
+  +bluez-utils-3.11.ebuild:
+  Version bump. Added an init script for the hidd daemon when the old-daemons
+  use flag is on as suggested in bug #178160. The input service is also disabled
+  by default when the old-daemons use flag is on.
+
</thetext>
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            <who>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-06-21 17:56:09 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>20:51 &lt; Betelgeuse&gt; holtmann: do you think it&apos;s better to install hidd or that custom script?
20:52 &lt; holtmann&gt; No No and No. The connect or create is only needed once. After that the HID connects back to you. It works this way. Period.
20:52 &lt; Betelgeuse&gt; holtmann: ok
20:52 &lt; Betelgeuse&gt; holtmann: so I install the helper and instruct people to run it the first time?
20:53 &lt; holtmann&gt; Have a script using input API is perfectly fine. I personally would prefer to use it C only. So no Python dependency for bluez-utils.

So basically for the new service architechture we need some kind of a helper installed. Either what Dick wrote or installing hidd. I think kdebluetooth-1.0_rc3 has something for it too.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dick@mrns.nl</who>
            <bug_when>2007-06-21 18:08:05 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>I suppose gnome-bluetooth will get that functionality too (there is some wizard code already in the tarball).
Maybe I will rewrite hidtool.py to a C program.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
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            <who>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-06-21 18:34:23 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #28)
&gt; I suppose gnome-bluetooth will get that functionality too (there is some wizard
&gt; code already in the tarball).
&gt; Maybe I will rewrite hidtool.py to a C program.
&gt; 

kdebluetooth 1.0_beta3 should have a wizard for it too
http://bluetooth.kmobiletools.org/1.0-beta3

being in python is not a problem for us but you could get your script upstream if you write it in C</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>betelgeuse@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2007-08-26 13:11:46 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Both bluez-gnome and kdebluetooth have GUI support for input devices nowadays and jakub reports that they work so marking this as fixed.</thetext>
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