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    <bug>
          <bug_id>138062</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2006-06-26 08:31 0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Scientific Gentoo reorg: electronics herd (category exists)</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2006-07-03 11:53:47 0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>Gentoo Linux</product>
          <component>Unspecified</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Linux</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          <dependson>138881</dependson>
          <blocked>138049</blocked>
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter>george@gentoo.org</reporter>
          <assigned_to>sci@gentoo.org</assigned_to>
          <cc>calchan@gentoo.org</cc>
    
    <cc>plasmaroo@gentoo.org</cc>

      

      
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>george@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-06-26 08:31:47 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Preliminary list:
sci-electronics:  34 (electronics?)
calchan, chrb?, agriffis?, phosphan, ribosome, plasmaroo, hansmi, 
cryos?, gustavoz?

Denis Dupeyron &lt;calchan@gentoo.org&gt; and Tim Yamin &lt;plasmaroo@gentoo.org&gt; have expressed interest already.

George</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>calchan@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-07-01 03:23:29 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>I had a short talk with George on irc, and the conclusion is that it&apos;s about time we get moving. So, here&apos;s what needs to be done :

1. Decide on a herd name
It was suggested that we drop &apos;sci-&apos; from the category name for the herd name. In our case that means we call our herd &apos;electronics&apos;. Any objections ? As far as I&apos;m concerned, I like it.

2. Create an entry in herds.xml and add maintainers
If everybody agrees, I will do this. I will add as maintainers only devs who ask for it (on this bug for example).

3. Adjust metadata.xml in corresponding ebuilds
Again, I&apos;m offering to do this, unless somebody disagrees or wants to help me.

4. Create an alias (electronics@gentoo.org, or see 1.) and make it point to maintainers
I can do that too. Same as in 2., I won&apos;t add you unless you ask me too.

Anything else I&apos;m forgetting ?

I&apos;d like to start doing this over the week-end since I have much less time on weekdays, but I also would like to read your opinions before. So, please try and reply before tomorrow (july 2nd) 9:00 UTC, when I will probably start. I&apos;d definitely like to hear Tim (plasmaroo) about this, but others are most welcome.

Denis.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>plasmaroo@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-07-01 06:50:45 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #1)
&gt; 1. Decide on a herd name
&gt; It was suggested that we drop &apos;sci-&apos; from the category name for the herd name.
&gt; In our case that means we call our herd &apos;electronics&apos;. Any objections ? As far
&gt; as I&apos;m concerned, I like it.

With the sci- is probably less confusing for wranglers since the category has a sci-. Otherwise they have yet another thing to remember :)... so I&apos;m sort of not too in favour of the just electronics@.

Thanks for offering your help with 2., 3. and 4 :-)</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>george@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-07-01 07:11:39 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>&gt; &gt; 1. Decide on a herd name
&gt; &gt; It was suggested that we drop &apos;sci-&apos; from the category name for the herd name.
&gt; With the sci- is probably less confusing for wranglers since the category has a
&gt; sci-. Otherwise they have yet another thing to remember :)... so I&apos;m sort of
Eh, you know what? I sort of suggested that we might drop sci from herd names, but then just now, on a short walk I just had, I was pondering - how to easily search for all the relevant herds or other related info? Even in herds.xml file that may be non-trivial.. So I am kind of turning around on that thought :). May be we should indeed keep (or even force) sci- in herd names?

But right now I would rather leave it at the discretion of maintainers who will deal with stuff most directly..

George</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>calchan@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-07-01 10:00:40 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #2)
&gt; With the sci- is probably less confusing for wranglers since the category has a
&gt; sci-. Otherwise they have yet another thing to remember :)... so I&apos;m sort of

Good point.

(In reply to comment #3)

&gt; but then just now, on a short walk I just had, I was pondering - how to easily
&gt; search for all the relevant herds or other related info? Even in herds.xml file
&gt; that may be non-trivial.. So I am kind of turning around on that thought :).

Good point, again.

It seems keeping sci- makes a lot of sense. So it eventually gets my vote too.

Denis.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>dberkholz@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-07-01 12:40:06 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #4)
&gt; (In reply to comment #3)
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; but then just now, on a short walk I just had, I was pondering - how to easily
&gt; &gt; search for all the relevant herds or other related info? Even in herds.xml file
&gt; &gt; that may be non-trivial.. So I am kind of turning around on that thought :).
&gt; 
&gt; Good point, again.

That&apos;s what metadata.xml is for. Whether you have to type sci-$foo or just $foo, the difference is meaningless so I say pick whichever one you like for some other reason.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>calchan@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-07-02 09:51:53 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>I have done everything up to item 3 above, and opened an infra bug for item number 4 (blocking this bug here). While I was editing all those metadata.xml files, I have added longdescription entries where they were missing or useless, i.e. 90% of the packages.

I have found the following packages in sci-libs that look like they need to be maintained by sci-electronics :
sci-libs/libgdgeda
sci-libs/libgeda

Do you guys agree ? Have you seen others ?

Denis.</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>plasmaroo@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-07-02 10:40:15 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>(In reply to comment #6)
&gt; I have found the following packages in sci-libs that look like they need to be
&gt; maintained by sci-electronics :
&gt; sci-libs/libgdgeda
&gt; sci-libs/libgeda

Yeah, those are ours. I&apos;ve just had a look and I haven&apos;t seen any others.
</thetext>
          </long_desc>
          <long_desc isprivate="0">
            <who>calchan@gentoo.org</who>
            <bug_when>2006-07-03 11:53:47 0000</bug_when>
            <thetext>Please welcome the sci-electronics herd as it has officially started its existence a few minutes ago.

:o)

Denis.</thetext>
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