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Reporter: Daa Jaa <dREPLACEeLETTEReEjBYeLETTEReA@gmail.com>
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Description:   Opened: 2008-02-04 17:29 0000
I have successfully merged =sci-mathematics/scilab-4.1.2 but the example of
page
/usr/lib/scilab-4.1.2/man/eng/utilities/ilib_for_link.htm does no more work. It
worked with previous versions of scilab.

There lacks the file /usr/lib/scilab-4.1.2/libtool and the directory
/usr/lib/scilab-4.1.2/config, created at install time but not merged.

The following instructions repaired my scilab installation :
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
ebuild /usr/portage/sci-mathematics/scilab/scilab-4.1.2.ebuild install
cp /var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics/scilab-4.1.2/work/scilab-4.1.2/libtool
/usr/lib/scilab-4.1.2/
cp -a /var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics/scilab-4.1.2/work/scilab-4.1.2/config
/usr/lib/scilab-4.1.2/
rm -rf /var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics
=========================================================================
This also repaired my installation of scilab-4.1.1 on amd64 and of scilab-4.1
on x86, which had exactly the same problem.

Content of loader.sce :
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
// generated by builder.sce: Please do not edit this file
// ------------------------------------------------------
fooc_path=get_absolute_file_path('loader.sce');
link(fooc_path+'libfooc.so',['fooc'],'c');
=========================================================================

Content of Makelib :
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
# generated by builder.sce: Please do not edit this file
# ------------------------------------------------------
SCIDIR = /usr/lib/scilab-4.1
OBJS =  fooc.o
OTHERLIBS = 
LIBRARY = libfooc
include $(SCIDIR)/Makefile.incl
CFLAGS = $(CC_OPTIONS) 
FFLAGS = $(FC_OPTIONS) 
EXTRA_LDFLAGS = 
include $(SCIDIR)/config/Makeso.incl
=========================================================================

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
f1=['int ext1c(n, a, b, c)'
    'int *n;     double *a, *b, *c;'
    '{int k;'
    '  for (k = 0; k < *n; ++k) '
    '      c[k] = a[k] + b[k];'
    '  return(0);}'];

mputl(f1,'fun1.c')

//creating the shared library (a gateway, a Makefile and a loader are 
//generated. 

ilib_for_link('ext1c','fun1.o',[],"c") 

// load the shared library 

exec loader.sce 

//using the new primitive
a=[1,2,3];b=[4,5,6];n=3;
c=call('ext1c',n,1,'i',a,2,'d',b,3,'d','out',[1,3],4,'d')
exit
Actual Results:  
        -------------------------------------------
                         scilab-4.1.2

                  Copyright (c) 1989-2007
              Consortium Scilab (INRIA, ENPC)
        -------------------------------------------


Startup execution:
  loading initial environment

-->f1=['int ext1c(n, a, b, c)'
-->    'int *n;     double *a, *b, *c;'
-->    '{int k;'
-->    '  for (k = 0; k < *n; ++k) '
-->    '      c[k] = a[k] + b[k];'
-->    '  return(0);}'];

-->

-->mputl(f1,'fun1.c')

-->

-->//creating the shared library (a gateway, a Makefile and a loader are

-->//generated.

-->

-->ilib_for_link('ext1c','fun1.o',[],"c")
   generate a loader file

 sh: /usr/lib64/scilab-4.1.2/libtool: No such file or directory
   generate a Makefile: Makelib
   running the makefile

 sh: /usr/lib64/scilab-4.1.2/libtool: No such file or directory
   compilation of fun1
   Makelib:11: /usr/lib64/scilab-4.1.2/config/Makeso.incl: No such file or
directory
   make: *** No rule to make target
`/usr/lib64/scilab-4.1.2/config/Makeso.incl'.  Stop.
 !--error 10000
unix_s: error during ``make -f Makelib fun1.o'' execution
at line      56 of function unix_s called by :
line    25 of function ilib_compile called by :
line    29 of function ilib_for_link called by :
ilib_for_link('ext1c','fun1.o',[],"c")


-->

-->// load the shared library

-->

-->exec loader.sce

-->// generated by builder.sce: Please do not edit this file

-->// ------------------------------------------------------

-->ext1c_path=get_absolute_file_path('loader.sce');

-->link(ext1c_path+'libext1c.a',['ext1c'],'c');
/usr/bin/ld: /root/libext1c.a: No such file: No such file or directory
ld returned bad status: 100
link(ext1c_path+'libext1c.a',['ext1c'],'c');
                                            !--error 236
link: the shared archive was not loaded
at line       4 of exec file called by :
exec loader.sce


-->

-->//using the new primitive

-->a=[1,2,3];b=[4,5,6];n=3;

-->c=call('ext1c',n,1,'i',a,2,'d',b,3,'d','out',[1,3],4,'d')
                                                          !--error 50
subroutine not found : ext1c


-->exit

Expected Results:  
        -------------------------------------------
                         scilab-4.1.2

                  Copyright (c) 1989-2007
              Consortium Scilab (INRIA, ENPC)
        -------------------------------------------


Startup execution:
  loading initial environment

-->f1=['int ext1c(n, a, b, c)'
-->    'int *n;     double *a, *b, *c;'
-->    '{int k;'
-->    '  for (k = 0; k < *n; ++k) '
-->    '      c[k] = a[k] + b[k];'
-->    '  return(0);}'];

-->

-->mputl(f1,'fun1.c')

-->

-->//creating the shared library (a gateway, a Makefile and a loader are

-->//generated.

-->

-->ilib_for_link('ext1c','fun1.o',[],"c")
   generate a loader file
   generate a Makefile: Makelib
   running the makefile
   compilation of fun1
   building shared library (be patient)
 ans  =

 libext1c.so   

-->

-->// load the shared library

-->

-->exec loader.sce

-->// generated by builder.sce: Please do not edit this file

-->// ------------------------------------------------------

-->ext1c_path=get_absolute_file_path('loader.sce');

-->link(ext1c_path+'libext1c.so',['ext1c'],'c');
shared archive loaded
Link done


-->

-->//using the new primitive

-->a=[1,2,3];b=[4,5,6];n=3;

-->c=call('ext1c',n,1,'i',a,2,'d',b,3,'d','out',[1,3],4,'d');
 c  =

    5.    7.    9.  

-->exit

I think my problem is platform independent, and my proposed patching
instructions worked on x86 and amd64.

------- Comment #1 From Jakub Moc (RETIRED) 2008-02-04 20:56:42 0000 -------
Reopen with full emerge.log attached; also post emerge --info output.

------- Comment #2 From Daa Jaa 2008-02-05 16:14:06 0000 -------
Created an attachment (id=142730) [edit]
/var/log/emerge.log, asked by comment #1 From [60]Jakub Moc 2008-02-04 20:56:42
0000

/var/log/emerge.log, asked by #1 From [60]Jakub Moc 2008-02-04 20:56:42 0000

------- Comment #3 From Daa Jaa 2008-02-05 16:16:01 0000 -------
emerge --info asked by comment #1 From Jakub Moc 2008-02-04 20:56:42 0000 :

Portage 2.1.3.19 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r0,
2.6.22-suspend2-r2 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.22-suspend2-r2 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @
2.40GHz
Timestamp of tree: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:47:01 +0000
ccache version 2.4 [disabled]
app-shells/bash:     3.2_p17
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
dev-lang/python:     2.4.4-r6
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
dev-util/ccache:     2.4-r7
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
sys-devel/automake:  1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r1
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.17-r2
ABI="amd64"
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x
ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3
trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci"
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route
share shm softvol"
APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm
authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host
authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir
disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info
log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling
status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias"
ARCH="amd64"
ASFLAGS_x86="--32"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CDEFINE_amd64="__x86_64__"
CDEFINE_x86="__i386__"
CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
CFLAGS_x86="-m32 -L/emul/linux/x86/lib -L/emul/linux/x86/usr/lib"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CHOST_amd64="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CHOST_x86="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CLASSPATH="."
CLEAN_DELAY="5"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf
/etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/
/etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo
/etc/texmf/web2c /etc/udev/rules.d"
CVS_RSH="ssh"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
DEFAULT_ABI="amd64"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
EDITOR="/bin/nano"
ELIBC="glibc"
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--usepkg --buildpkg --ask --verbose --noreplace"
EMERGE_WARNING_DELAY="10"
FEATURES="collision-protect distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict
unmerge-orphans userfetch"
FETCHCOMMAND="/usr/bin/wget -t 5 -T 60 --passive-ftp -O ${DISTDIR}/${FILE}
${URI}"
FLTK_DOCDIR="/usr/share/doc/fltk-1.1.7-r2/html"
GCC_PATH="/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2"
GCC_SPECS=""
GDK_USE_XFT="1"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/
http://gentoo.mirror.solnet.ch
http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirror/
http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/gentoo/
http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ http://gentoo.tiscali.nl/
http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo http://gentoo.intergenia.de
http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ http://gentoo.ynet.sk/pub
http://gentoo.modulix.net/gentoo/
http://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/mirrors/gentoo"
HOME="/root"
INFOPATH="/usr/share/info:/usr/share/binutils-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.18/info:/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/info:/usr/share/info/emacs-22"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev"
JAVAC="/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm/bin/javac"
JAVA_HOME="/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm"
JDK_HOME="/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm"
KDEDIRS="/usr:/usr/local:/usr/kde/3.5"
KERNEL="linux"
LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses
text"
LDFLAGS_x86="-m elf_i386 -L/emul/linux/x86/lib -L/emul/linux/x86/usr/lib"
LESS="-R -M --shift 5"
LESSOPEN="|lesspipe.sh %s"
LIBDIR_amd64="lib64"
LIBDIR_x86="lib32"
LOGNAME="root"
LS_COLORS="no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=01;05;37;41:mi=01;05;37;41:su=37;41:sg=30;43:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tbz2=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.rar=01;31:*.ace=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.7z=01;31:*.rz=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.yuv=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.mkv=01;35:*.ogm=01;35:*.mp4=01;35:*.m4v=01;35:*.mp4v=01;35:*.vob=01;35:*.qt=01;35:*.nuv=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.asf=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.rmvb=01;35:*.flc=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.pdf=00;32:*.ps=00;32:*.txt=00;32:*.patch=00;32:*.diff=00;32:*.log=00;32:*.tex=00;32:*.doc=00;32:*.flac=01;35:*.mp3=01;3
5:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.wav=00;36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;36:*.aac=00;36:*.ra=01;36:*.mka=01;36:"
MAIL="/var/mail/root"
MAKEOPTS="-j4"
MANPATH="/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/share/binutils-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.18/man:/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/man:/etc/java-config/system-vm/man/:/usr/lib64/php5/man/:/usr/kde/3.5/share/man:/usr/qt/3/doc/man:/opt/vmware/player/man"
MULTILIB_ABIS="amd64 x86"
MULTILIB_STRICT_DENY="64-bit.*shared object"
MULTILIB_STRICT_DIRS="/lib /usr/lib /usr/kde/*/lib /usr/qt/*/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib"
MULTILIB_STRICT_EXEMPT="(perl5|gcc|gcc-lib|binutils|eclipse-3|debug|portage)"
NOCOLOR="true"
OPENGL_PROFILE="xorg-x11"
PAGER="/usr/bin/less"
PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/kde/3.5/sbin:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/opt/vmware/player/bin"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/qt/3/lib64/pkgconfig"
PORTAGE_ARCHLIST="ppc s390 amd64 x86 ppc64 x86-fbsd m68k arm sparc sh mips ia64
alpha ppc-macos hppa sparc-fbsd"
PORTAGE_BINHOST_CHUNKSIZE="3000"
PORTAGE_BIN_PATH="/usr/lib64/portage/bin"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_DEBUG="0"
PORTAGE_DEPCACHEDIR="/var/cache/edb/dep"
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="log warn error"
PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILFROM="portage@localhost"
PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILSUBJECT="[portage] ebuild log for ${PACKAGE} on ${HOST}"
PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI="root"
PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save_summary echo"
PORTAGE_GID="250"
PORTAGE_INST_GID="0"
PORTAGE_INST_UID="0"
PORTAGE_NICENESS="10"
PORTAGE_PYM_PATH="/usr/lib64/portage/pym"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress
--force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
--filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_RETRIES="3"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTAGE_WORKDIR_MODE="0700"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PRELINK_PATH_MASK="/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10"
PWD="/root"
PYTHONPATH="/usr/lib64/portage/pym"
QMAKESPEC="linux-g++"
QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
RESUMECOMMAND="/usr/bin/wget -c -t 5 -T 60 --passive-ftp -O ${DISTDIR}/${FILE}
${URI}"
ROOT="/"
ROOTPATH="/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/kde/3.5/sbin:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/opt/vmware/player/bin"
RPMDIR="/usr/portage/rpm"
SANE_CONFIG_DIR="/etc/sane.d"
SHELL="/bin/bash"
SHLVL="1"
SSH_CLIENT="10.75.4.15 45232 22"
SSH_CONNECTION="10.75.4.15 45232 10.75.4.18 22"
SSH_TTY="/dev/pts/0"
STAGE1_USE="nptl nptlonly unicode"
SYMLINK_LIB="yes"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
TERM="screen"
USB_DEVFS_PATH="/dev/bus/usb"
USE="3dnow 3dnowext X Xaw3d a52 aac accessibility acl acpi alsa amd64 apache2
arts async avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdparanoia cdr cjk cli cracklib crypt
curl custom-cflags dbus directfb djvu dri dvd dvdread emacs encode esd exif fat
fax ffmpeg fftw fortran ftp gcj gdbm gif gmp gphoto2 gpm graphviz gs gtk hdri
history hpn i810 iconv ieee1394 imagemagick ipv6 isdnlog ja java jbig jpeg
jpeg2k jpg kde kerberos lame lapack latex ldap lesstif lm_sensors mad midi
mjpeg mmx mp2 mp3 mpeg mudflap mysql ncurses net nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin
ntfs odbc ogg openexr opengl openmp oss pam pcre perl php plotutils png
postgres postscript povray ppds pppd python q32 q8 qt3 quotas readline recode
reflection samba scanner screen sdl server session spell spl sse sse2 ssl
symlink tcpd tetex tftp threads tiff tk truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts
unicode usb v4l v4l2 vim-syntax vim-with-x vnc vorbis wmf x xanim xinerama xml
xmlreader xmlrpc xmlwriter xorg xpm xv xvid zip zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451
als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem
bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel
intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci"
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route
share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias
authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default
authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs
dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter
headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation
rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias"
ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" KERNEL="linux"
LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses
text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="apm ark chips cirrus cyrix dummy fbdev glint
i128 i810 mach64 mga neomagic nv r128 radeon
rendition s3 s3virge savage siliconmotion sis sisusb tdfx tga trident tseng v4l
vesa vga via vmware voodoo"
USER="root"
USERLAND="GNU"
USE_EXPAND="ALSA_CARDS ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS APACHE2_MODULES APACHE2_MPMS CAMERAS
CROSSCOMPILE_OPTS DVB_CARDS ELIBC FCDSL_CARDS FOO2ZJS_DEVICES FRITZCAPI_CARDS
INPUT_DEVICES KERNEL LCD_DEVICES LINGUAS LIRC_DEVICES MISDN_CARDS USERLAND
VIDEO_CARDS"
USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN="CROSSCOMPILE_OPTS ELIBC KERNEL USERLAND"
USE_ORDER="env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:env.d"
VIDEO_CARDS="apm ark chips cirrus cyrix dummy fbdev glint i128 i810 mach64 mga
neomagic nv r128 radeon rendition s3 s3virge savage siliconmotion sis sisusb
tdfx tga trident tseng v4l vesa vga via vmware voodoo"
XARGS="xargs -r"
XDG_DATA_DIRS="/usr/share:/usr/kde/3.5/share:/usr/local/share"
_="/usr/bin/emerge"

------- Comment #4 From Markus Dittrich 2008-02-06 14:56:52 0000 -------
Thanks for the note! It looks like upstream broke
their install scripts if this used to work in previous
versions. I'll see that I can fix it. 

Best,
Markus

------- Comment #5 From Markus Dittrich 2008-02-06 17:03:25 0000 -------
This should be fixed in portave cvs now. Please give
it an hour or so to propagate to the mirrors.

Thanks,
Markus

------- Comment #6 From Daa Jaa 2008-02-09 21:44:46 0000 -------
Can someone delete my e-mail from this page ?

------- Comment #7 From Markus Dittrich 2008-02-10 12:06:03 0000 -------
By "this page" you are referring to this bug?
If so, I think the answer is no (short of somebody
actually editing the database perhaps). Is there
any particular reason for this request?

Markus 

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