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Bug#: 181042
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Status: RESOLVED
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Assigned To: Gentoo ALSA team <alsa-bugs@gentoo.org>
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Reporter: Brian Johnson <gentoo-bugzilla@dogtoe.com>
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Description:   Opened: 2007-06-06 04:13 0000
Released on 6 Jun 2007, alsa-driver, alsa-modules and alsa-utils is no longer
at 1.0.14-r3, but rather 1.0.14 final.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
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Actual Results:  
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Expected Results:  
alsa-driver-1.0.14 is masked in portage, allowing me to merge it with ~arch.

------- Comment #1 From Jakub Moc (RETIRED) 2007-06-06 06:37:48 0000 -------
Please don't do this... seriously, it's pretty rude.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bugzilla-howto.xml#doc_chap6 (Zero-day bump
requests)

------- Comment #2 From Jakub Moc (RETIRED) 2007-06-18 19:50:09 0000 -------
*** Bug 182472 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Comment #3 From Jakub Moc (RETIRED) 2007-06-25 18:16:47 0000 -------
*** Bug 183180 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Comment #4 From Tony Vroon 2007-06-27 16:07:38 0000 -------
*  media-libs/alsa-lib
Bumped to 1.0.14a

*  media-libs/alsa-oss
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-plugins/alsa-plugins
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-sound/alsa-driver
Needs testing for outstanding bugs; also, this will be discontinued later. Will
need to consider what message to put on here, and whether to release one last
1.0.14 ebuild.

*  media-sound/alsa-firmware
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-sound/alsa-headers
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-sound/alsa-tools
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-sound/alsa-utils
Bumped to 1.0.14

Please try your soundcard on in-kernel ALSA drivers, as briefly mentioned
above, the use of the alsa-driver ebuild is no longer recommended. The ALSA
guide will be updated to reflect this shortly.

------- Comment #5 From Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) 2007-06-27 16:23:53 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #4)
> *  media-sound/alsa-driver
> Needs testing for outstanding bugs; also, this will be discontinued later. Will
> need to consider what message to put on here, and whether to release one last
> 1.0.14 ebuild.
>
...
> 
> Please try your soundcard on in-kernel ALSA drivers, as briefly mentioned
> above, the use of the alsa-driver ebuild is no longer recommended. The ALSA
> guide will be updated to reflect this shortly.

Are you kidding? Can you give just one good reason to use mostly outdated
in-kernel drivers even in recent kernels?
I don't like to use old in-kernel alsa-drivers with newest
alsa-{lib,utils,oss}. 
Even the alsa-guys recommend to stay in sync with all alsa components and to
not mix versions up...

------- Comment #6 From Tony Vroon 2007-06-27 18:45:14 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #5)
> Are you kidding? 

No.

> Can you give just one good reason to use mostly outdated
> in-kernel drivers even in recent kernels?

Certainly, bug #171872, bug #171872, bug #175699, bug #177357, having to
recompile additional packages after a kernel recompilation and people managing
to break compilation or assemble a desynced set of libs & drivers that emits no
sound and segfaults.   

> I don't like to use old in-kernel alsa-drivers with newest
> alsa-{lib,utils,oss}.

Then perhaps you should run newer kernels if you want to live on the edge...

------- Comment #7 From Brian Johnson 2007-06-27 20:04:21 0000 -------
> 
> Then perhaps you should run newer kernels if you want to live on the edge...
> 

Or not. Even the newest (unstable) 2.6.22rc6 kernel only has alsa-driver
version 1.0.14rc3. So which kernel would you recommend I upgrade to? With that
said, certainly you wouldn't want (I know I don't want) to have a completely
unstable system just to get bleeding edge sound support. I'm going to have to
agree with Lars on this one.

------- Comment #8 From Tony Vroon 2007-06-27 20:46:35 0000 -------
> I'm going to have to agree with Lars on this one.

Please note that this bug is about bumping ALSA to 1.0.14; which is happening.
If you want to have a discussion about ALSA support in Gentoo, then the
gentoo-dev mailing list is the place for that.
However, do note that the opinion of the people actually doing the work may
matter most in the end.

------- Comment #9 From Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) 2007-06-27 23:23:06 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #8)
> However, do note that the opinion of the people actually doing the work may
> matter most in the end.

Then the wrong people are doing the work...

------- Comment #10 From Tony Vroon 2007-06-27 23:31:34 0000 -------
Very well, ALSA components bumped, no alsa-driver upgrade until further notice.

------- Comment #11 From Jakub Moc (RETIRED) 2007-06-28 14:49:46 0000 -------
This is not something I'd call as FIXED:

# emerge -uDpv world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies /
!!! Multiple versions within a single package slot have been 
!!! pulled into the dependency graph:


('installed', '/', 'media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.14_rc3', 'nomerge') pulled in
by
  ('installed', '/', 'media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc3', 'nomerge')

('ebuild', '/', 'media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.14', 'merge') pulled in by
  ('ebuild', '/', 'media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.14a', 'merge')

------- Comment #12 From Tony Vroon 2007-06-28 14:56:09 0000 -------
Open a separate bug if you are impatient about alsa-driver, update blocked by
bugs #171872 and #182773.

------- Comment #13 From Jakub Moc (RETIRED) 2007-06-28 15:00:07 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #12)
> Open a separate bug if you are impatient about alsa-driver, update blocked by
> bugs #171872 and #182773.

Joking? Update is blocked by a bug that this update will solve?


------- Comment #14 From Jakub Moc (RETIRED) 2007-06-28 15:40:38 0000 -------
17:16:58 <+CIA-24> chainsaw * gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-driver/ (3 files in 2
dirs): 
17:16:58 <+CIA-24> Version bump, closes bug #171872. Clean-up of older ALSA
modules will now be nice and silent thanks to AndrĂ¡s                  
<bogar@hej.hu>, closes bug #182773.     

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