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Bug 181042 - alsa-{driver|utils|modules} final at 1.0.14 upstream
Summary: alsa-{driver|utils|modules} final at 1.0.14 upstream
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High enhancement (vote)
Assignee: Gentoo ALSA team
URL: http://alsa-project.org/
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
: 182472 183180 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2007-06-06 04:13 UTC by Brian Johnson
Modified: 2007-06-28 15:40 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Description Brian Johnson 2007-06-06 04:13:13 UTC
Released on 6 Jun 2007, alsa-driver, alsa-modules and alsa-utils is no longer at 1.0.14-r3, but rather 1.0.14 final.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
n/a
Actual Results:  
n/a

Expected Results:  
alsa-driver-1.0.14 is masked in portage, allowing me to merge it with ~arch.
Comment 1 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-06 06:37:48 UTC
Please don't do this... seriously, it's pretty rude.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bugzilla-howto.xml#doc_chap6 (Zero-day bump requests)
Comment 2 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-18 19:50:09 UTC
*** Bug 182472 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 3 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-25 18:16:47 UTC
*** Bug 183180 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Tony Vroon (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-27 16:07:38 UTC
*  media-libs/alsa-lib
Bumped to 1.0.14a

*  media-libs/alsa-oss
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-plugins/alsa-plugins
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-sound/alsa-driver
Needs testing for outstanding bugs; also, this will be discontinued later. Will need to consider what message to put on here, and whether to release one last 1.0.14 ebuild.

*  media-sound/alsa-firmware
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-sound/alsa-headers
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-sound/alsa-tools
Bumped to 1.0.14

*  media-sound/alsa-utils
Bumped to 1.0.14

Please try your soundcard on in-kernel ALSA drivers, as briefly mentioned above, the use of the alsa-driver ebuild is no longer recommended. The ALSA guide will be updated to reflect this shortly.
Comment 5 Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-27 16:23:53 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> *  media-sound/alsa-driver
> Needs testing for outstanding bugs; also, this will be discontinued later. Will
> need to consider what message to put on here, and whether to release one last
> 1.0.14 ebuild.
>
...
> 
> Please try your soundcard on in-kernel ALSA drivers, as briefly mentioned
> above, the use of the alsa-driver ebuild is no longer recommended. The ALSA
> guide will be updated to reflect this shortly.

Are you kidding? Can you give just one good reason to use mostly outdated in-kernel drivers even in recent kernels?
I don't like to use old in-kernel alsa-drivers with newest alsa-{lib,utils,oss}. 
Even the alsa-guys recommend to stay in sync with all alsa components and to not mix versions up...
Comment 6 Tony Vroon (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-27 18:45:14 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Are you kidding? 

No.

> Can you give just one good reason to use mostly outdated
> in-kernel drivers even in recent kernels?

Certainly, bug #171872, bug #171872, bug #175699, bug #177357, having to recompile additional packages after a kernel recompilation and people managing to break compilation or assemble a desynced set of libs & drivers that emits no sound and segfaults.   

> I don't like to use old in-kernel alsa-drivers with newest
> alsa-{lib,utils,oss}.

Then perhaps you should run newer kernels if you want to live on the edge...
Comment 7 Brian Johnson 2007-06-27 20:04:21 UTC
> 
> Then perhaps you should run newer kernels if you want to live on the edge...
> 

Or not. Even the newest (unstable) 2.6.22rc6 kernel only has alsa-driver version 1.0.14rc3. So which kernel would you recommend I upgrade to? With that said, certainly you wouldn't want (I know I don't want) to have a completely unstable system just to get bleeding edge sound support. I'm going to have to agree with Lars on this one.
Comment 8 Tony Vroon (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-27 20:46:35 UTC
> I'm going to have to agree with Lars on this one.

Please note that this bug is about bumping ALSA to 1.0.14; which is happening. If you want to have a discussion about ALSA support in Gentoo, then the gentoo-dev mailing list is the place for that.
However, do note that the opinion of the people actually doing the work may matter most in the end.
Comment 9 Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-27 23:23:06 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> However, do note that the opinion of the people actually doing the work may
> matter most in the end.

Then the wrong people are doing the work...
Comment 10 Tony Vroon (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-27 23:31:34 UTC
Very well, ALSA components bumped, no alsa-driver upgrade until further notice.
Comment 11 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-28 14:49:46 UTC
This is not something I'd call as FIXED:

# emerge -uDpv world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies /
!!! Multiple versions within a single package slot have been 
!!! pulled into the dependency graph:


('installed', '/', 'media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.14_rc3', 'nomerge') pulled in by
  ('installed', '/', 'media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc3', 'nomerge')

('ebuild', '/', 'media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.14', 'merge') pulled in by
  ('ebuild', '/', 'media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.14a', 'merge')
Comment 12 Tony Vroon (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-28 14:56:09 UTC
Open a separate bug if you are impatient about alsa-driver, update blocked by bugs #171872 and #182773.
Comment 13 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-28 15:00:07 UTC
(In reply to comment #12)
> Open a separate bug if you are impatient about alsa-driver, update blocked by
> bugs #171872 and #182773.

Joking? Update is blocked by a bug that this update will solve?
 
Comment 14 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-06-28 15:40:38 UTC
17:16:58 <+CIA-24> chainsaw * gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-driver/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
17:16:58 <+CIA-24> Version bump, closes bug #171872. Clean-up of older ALSA modules will now be nice and silent thanks to András                   <bogar@hej.hu>, closes bug #182773.