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Bug#: 168573
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Status: RESOLVED
Resolution: FIXED
Assigned To: Retirement Admin <retirement@gentoo.org>
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Reporter: Stefan Schweizer <genstef@gentoo.org>
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philantrop.txt Excerpts text/plain Christina Fullam 2008-04-28 02:31 0000 2.85 KB Details
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Description:   Opened: 2007-02-27 13:05 0000
Wulf is going to help with kde herd development. He is already working on
ebuilds for the upcoming kde4.

------- Comment #1 From Christian Heim (RETIRED) 2007-03-03 13:55:40 0000 -------
I'm going to take a look at his quizzes once he sent them.

------- Comment #2 From Wulf Krueger (RETIRED) 2007-03-03 20:16:50 0000 -------
I've just emailed the quizzes. Thanks for your time, guys.

I'd like to add to genstef's introduction that I'd like to join the amd64 team
as well as that's my primary (albeit not only) platform.

------- Comment #3 From Petteri Räty 2007-03-03 20:26:26 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #2)
> I've just emailed the quizzes. Thanks for your time, guys.
> 
> I'd like to add to genstef's introduction that I'd like to join the amd64 team
> as well as that's my primary (albeit not only) platform.
> 

That's for the amd64 team to decide but I don't see why not.

------- Comment #4 From Petteri Räty 2007-03-30 13:06:08 0000 -------
phreak: What's the status here? Philantrop sent his quizes a month ago.

------- Comment #5 From Christian Heim (RETIRED) 2007-04-01 19:09:40 0000 -------
I'm sorry, but I won't have time for you guys next week (that's April 2nd till
6th), I'm pretty busy with work; I'll try to read my mails and look at my
backlog from time to time.

------- Comment #6 From Petteri Räty 2007-04-07 23:32:09 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #5)
> I'm sorry, but I won't have time for you guys next week (that's April 2nd till
> 6th), I'm pretty busy with work; I'll try to read my mails and look at my
> backlog from time to time.
> 

I reviewed his quizes and was satisfied enough with his answers. I will set him
up later when I have the time. Feel free to do it if you beat me to it :)

------- Comment #7 From Petteri Räty 2007-04-09 13:48:11 0000 -------
These things setup:
LDAP
userinfo.xml
bugzilla
cvs/svn groups on cvs.gentoo.org
IRC-cloak
announcement
#gentoo-dev channel access

Still to do:
gentoo-core access (The mailing list manager does not let me in)

What you need to do:
- subscribe to mailing lists with @gentoo.org address
- request forum status bump from from amne or tomk (if you have a forums
  account)
- add yourself to mail aliases ( like java@gentoo.org )
  see /var/mail/alias on dev.gentoo.org
- ask team leads to add yourself to herds.xml for the herds you want to
  join or do it yourself if you have the permission to do so

------- Comment #8 From Wulf Krueger (RETIRED) 2007-04-09 20:42:19 0000 -------
- I've received mail on -core so I'm obviously subscribed.
- I'm subscribed to -dev as philantrop@gentoo.org.
- Forums account has been updated.
- Got lots of spam on the kde-aliases so that works, too. ;-)
- Was asked to add myself to the kde herd in herds.xml and did that.

Everything seems to work just fine so far. Thank you!

------- Comment #9 From Petteri Räty 2007-04-09 20:50:38 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #8)
> - I've received mail on -core so I'm obviously subscribed.
> - I'm subscribed to -dev as philantrop@gentoo.org.
> - Forums account has been updated.
> - Got lots of spam on the kde-aliases so that works, too. ;-)
> - Was asked to add myself to the kde herd in herds.xml and did that.
> 
> Everything seems to work just fine so far. Thank you!
> 

Marking as FIXED.

------- Comment #10 From Christina Fullam 2008-04-28 01:34:32 0000 -------
Please proceed with retirement procedures, reference bug 216219, however use
this bug for processing.

------- Comment #11 From Mauricio L. Pilla 2008-04-28 01:59:00 0000 -------
Forums fixed.

------- Comment #12 From Łukasz Damentko 2008-04-28 02:09:46 0000 -------
- Removed gentoo/developer cloak on freenode
- Removed #gentoo-dev access
- Reassigned all remaining bugs

------- Comment #13 From Mike Doty 2008-04-28 02:13:03 0000 -------
dev/cvs/lists/ldap done

------- Comment #14 From Łukasz Damentko 2008-04-28 02:21:04 0000 -------
- Removed from proj/ pages.

------- Comment #15 From Christina Fullam 2008-04-28 02:31:21 0000 -------
Created an attachment (id=151215) [edit]
Excerpts

------- Comment #16 From Carsten Lohrke 2008-04-28 10:02:48 0000 -------
Why is bug 216219 restricted even to developers!? I'd really like to know what
it is about.

------- Comment #17 From Timo Gurr 2008-04-28 11:25:48 0000 -------
Please open bug #216219, or do we have to get our own? Taking away our KDE
project lead over night is clearly not the way to go.

------- Comment #18 From Samuli Suominen 2008-04-28 14:15:22 0000 -------
Wait, exactly what is going on here? I'd say _don't_ retire Philantrop unless
he wants to leave, of course. One of the biggest contributors ATM, and well
appericiated among the community.

------- Comment #19 From Łukasz Damentko 2008-04-28 16:14:57 0000 -------
- removed from metadata.xml files
- removed from all herds

------- Comment #20 From Łukasz Damentko 2008-04-28 16:44:45 0000 -------
- Planet done and retirement procedure completed.

------- Comment #21 From Ferris McCormick 2008-04-28 19:36:29 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #15)
> Created an attachment (id=151215) [edit]
> Excerpts
> 

Uh, that's the reason for retiring him without even giving notice?  That's a
joke, right?

------- Comment #22 From Santiago M. Mola 2008-04-28 19:55:08 0000 -------
Ferris, it's not a joke, it's a measure for preventing Philantrop introducing
malicous code in the tree or break it:

( 16:50       musikc ) i do agree that some information should have been shared
but also feel that there were concerns for potential retaliation over the
possibility of the action... if that makes sense

[...]

( 16:55         zlin ) musikc: what kind of retaliation?
( 16:58       musikc ) tree access i suppose
( 16:58      astinus ) pft.
( 16:59         zlin ) I don't follow
( 17:00      astinus ) zlin: People doing daft stuff in the tree like commit
"wars" + EAPI-50 without prior discussion
( 17:02         zlin ) huh?
( 17:04      antarus ) while I don't think they would make malicious commits to
the tree I can at least see where that fear comes from
( 17:04      antarus ) zlin: can you not?
( 17:05         zlin ) not at all
( 17:05         zlin ) they have never done any such thing
( 17:05      antarus ) ahh
( 17:05      antarus ) I know
( 17:05      antarus ) hence 'I don't think they would'
( 17:05      antarus ) but I have been wrong before
( 17:06         zlin ) and even on the odd chance that they did it wouldn't
really be hard to respond swiftly and correct it.. no huge deal.
( 17:06      astinus ) zlin: With even the slightest risk/hint anyone would do
something malicious to the tree, access would be immediately yanked by Infra
( 17:06       musikc ) i dont believe that people want to be malicious, but
when i have seen malicious behavior has been in situations such as this
( 17:06         zlin ) exactly. but there has been no such slightest
risk/hint...
( 17:06       musikc ) i view it as preventative measures

[...]

------- Comment #23 From Ferris McCormick 2008-04-28 20:18:41 0000 -------
You've completely lost me there.  You think Wulf would destroy the tree if we
just processed the complaint (from wherever it comes) normally?  I guess I'm
not quite so suspicious of our fellow developers.

------- Comment #24 From Łukasz Damentko 2008-04-28 21:35:25 0000 -------
This is a resolved bug for recruitment and retirement procedures. Please
continue your conversation elsewhere.

------- Comment #25 From Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto 2008-04-29 00:54:50 0000 -------
Łukasz,

I can understand your comment, but since there's no open bug about a complaint
against Wulf, I don't know where else I can post any comment about his forced
retirement.

I just want to add a note that I had personally talked to Wulf about the issues
that are listed in the excerpt and had told him imho he deserved a good
"clubbing on the head". I never thought it would get to this extreme.

------- Comment #26 From David Leverton 2008-04-29 11:39:47 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #22)
> ( 16:50       musikc ) i do agree that some information should have been shared
> but also feel that there were concerns for potential retaliation over the
> possibility of the action... if that makes sense

If that really is the reason, and not just some lame excuse, then why not just
suspend commit access?  There's absolutely no need for goiNG through with the
full retirement procedure so quickly.

------- Comment #27 From Ferris McCormick 2008-04-29 13:22:25 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #24)
> This is a resolved bug for recruitment and retirement procedures. Please
> continue your conversation elsewhere.
> 

People --- even me --- comment on closed bugs all the time in order to keep a
record of events and updates, and sometimes closed bugs (perhaps even this one)
get reopened and then you need the complete history.  It's a real pain digging
through emails and cross-referencing bugs and such.  Why make this comment on
this bug now?  Where do you suggest for "elsewhere" --- gentoo-dev@ because the
bug is public?

------- Comment #28 From Ferris McCormick 2008-04-29 13:25:19 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #22)
> Ferris, it's not a joke, it's a measure for preventing Philantrop introducing
> malicous code in the tree or break it:
> 
> ( 16:50       musikc ) i do agree that some information should have been shared
> but also feel that there were concerns for potential retaliation over the
> possibility of the action... if that makes sense
>
Everything else deleted.

Where and when is that from?  It's not identified and there's no date.

------- Comment #29 From Santiago M. Mola 2008-04-29 15:34:54 0000 -------
(In reply to comment #28)
> 
> Where and when is that from?  It's not identified and there's no date.
> 

Yesterday on #-infra iirc. If that really matters, ask to any of the people who
appears in the log ;-)

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