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Bug#: 157519
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Reporter: Ioannis Aslanidis <deathwing00@gentoo.org>
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Gentoo.tar.bz2 Splash with Gentoo branding for KDE 3.5 application/octet-stream Ioannis Aslanidis 2006-12-08 07:19 0000 89.03 KB Details
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Description:   Opened: 2006-12-08 07:17 0000
It would be great if we added Gentoo branding to the KDE login splash. Let this
bug help with tracking the best way to do it, so that it does not harm users
that refuse to have Gentoo branding.

The current proposed way is to use the vanilla flag to prevent the
installation/use of custom branding.

------- Comment #1 From Ioannis Aslanidis 2006-12-08 07:19:28 0000 -------
Created an attachment (id=103623) [edit]
Splash with Gentoo branding for KDE 3.5

This splash images should be bug-free. Please, test if you have the time.
Feedback is welcome.

------- Comment #2 From Ioannis Aslanidis 2006-12-17 05:37:24 0000 -------
I'd like to have some users to test this.

Btw, I also was advised by 'jakub' to use the 'branding' USE flag.

Any comments and ideas will be helpful!

------- Comment #3 From Paweł Hajdan jr (ph) 2007-01-04 07:16:01 0000 -------
Tested, works fine. Few comments:

- preview does not reflect actual appearance
- the archive contains vim's .swp file
- branding USE flag is IMHO a good thing; vote++

My overall opinion: nice work!

------- Comment #4 From Alex 2007-01-06 06:32:50 0000 -------
I'd love to see this with USE="branding".

------- Comment #5 From Ioannis Aslanidis 2007-01-06 21:26:30 0000 -------
Please, also be so kind to give your opinion in the following forums thread:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-529836.html

------- Comment #6 From Francois Bissey 2007-01-06 22:37:19 0000 -------
Looks nice, I guess it is in line with the live cd.
I guess even if it is not set up as the default theme
it would be nice to install it or to provide a separate ebuild
to install it. Some people like switching theme (my wife does
that an awfull lot, artwork staying the same for a long time
is boring according to her :) ).

And yes the preview should reflect the content wich it doesn't 
at the moment.

------- Comment #7 From Marcus D. Hanwell 2007-01-07 10:21:16 0000 -------
I will test soon but I think this is a great idea. We thought about this a few
years ago but the opinion seemed to be that we shouldn't brand it as that
is/was not the Gentoo way.

I think it should be applied with the branding USE flag and set as the default
if the branding USE flag is set. I agree that the preview should match the
theme but I am sure you will take care of that. Great work!

------- Comment #8 From Volker Hemmann 2007-01-10 02:49:13 0000 -------
I really don't think that (ab)using the vanilla flag is the right choice for
this:

vanilla - Do not add extra patches which change default behaviour; DO NOT USE
THIS ON A GLOBAL SCALE as the severity of the meaning changes drastically

that does not sound well.

Create a 'branding' flag and default to off, if you have to.

------- Comment #9 From Carsten Lohrke 2007-03-31 14:48:13 0000 -------
We have already a branding use flag for this purpose. I don't mind adding it,
with the next release or when there is a good reason to do a revision bump.

While I personally dislike and won't enabled it, what I'm a bit puzzled about
is, if there is a concerted effort by those who are fond of branding. If every
maintainer (group) has his (its) very own idea of what should the design be
like, the overall result will look like shit. 


Current packages featuring the flag are

app-office/openoffice
dev-util/eclipse-sdk
gnome-base/gnome-session
x11-misc/xscreensaver


I propose that those who are fond of branding team up and coordinate, before we
do something about it.

------- Comment #10 From Ioannis Aslanidis 2007-03-31 16:59:25 0000 -------
It's not the time yet. We have to sort out a few more things. We can go ahead
without adding it for now.

------- Comment #11 From Marcus D. Hanwell 2007-07-15 22:04:23 0000 -------
Has this been abandoned for now? I would like to see some branding controlled
by a USE flag as suggested. I think if the branding USE flag is set then it
should be the default. Talking to people at conferences etc indicates that
people are receptive to it.

I do agree that this should remain as consistent as is reasonable across
various branded applications. I don't think we have to stick to the exact same
style across everything but a consistent look would make Gentoo installations
look far more sleek and polished.

------- Comment #12 From Ioannis Aslanidis 2007-07-16 05:16:18 0000 -------
What we should do now is define which applications will be themed and then
create a contest and call for themes. This way, submitters will have to give a
full theme pack for all of them, in order to prevent the problems that
experienced www-redesign.

------- Comment #13 From Marcus D. Hanwell 2007-07-16 15:38:18 0000 -------
It sounds like a big task still. I thought if we had decent artwork it would be
good to use it now rather than spending months on a contest. The results of a
project like that could of course replace the artwork we used in the shorter
term. I am not an artist though and so can't do a great deal but so long as it
is all reasonably consistent I think it will look good. Apps coded using
different graphical libraries will look different anyway.

This is not something I am desperate to do but see no reason to hold back if we
have some branding artwork available. Otherwise this bug should be closed as
later etc until such a time as we have the artwork to use.

------- Comment #14 From Ioannis Aslanidis 2007-07-17 21:09:26 0000 -------
Well, the idea was to discuss this with the forums team and devrel and see what
we can get. I asked a couple of times how to organize it all and what steps to
follow, but it looked like it was all up to me.

You guys can try to get some extra info from devrel, might that help. The
forums team will gladly help :)

------- Comment #15 From Wulf Krueger (RETIRED) 2007-09-02 01:06:46 0000 -------
 (In reply to comment #13)
> Otherwise this bug should be closed as later etc until such a time as we have the artwork to use.

Let's re-open this one when we have the organisational stuff done.

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